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    6-speed manual custom anti-lag and launch control

    No idea how this works but 6-speed guys might want to pay attention:


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    Says they won't release any details or release it to the public...

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    This is epic and I want all of it. This + a proper shift bog fix/NLS should net some nasty 1/4 mile times...

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    it's not Tony working on it. It's that 'tuner' guy from Colorado.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by iminhell1 Click here to enlarge
    it's not Tony working on it. It's that 'tuner' guy from Colorado.
    Who is he?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by iminhell1 Click here to enlarge
    it's not Tony working on it. It's that 'tuner' guy from Colorado.
    Sorry Joe, I have to respond to something so ridiculous. Where these people get this info I will never know. First off I 100% built this system myself from scratch with no help from any tuner. I bounced a couple questions off a few people in the industry, and had Justin check a few logs, besides that its been me blowing everyones ear drums out at the shop until I got it dialed. Seriously where do people come up with this stuff, I have never even worked with a tuner in Colorado...

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    Not in the loop on this but I presume he's using a WOT BOX to vary power to the coils along with the JB4's anti-lag technique (timing going negative based on IAT input) in combination. I've been wanting to program that in to the JB4 for testing but not gotten to it yet. Waiting for our primary MT race car to get back first. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Tony@VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Sorry Joe, I have to respond to something so ridiculous. Where these people get this info I will never know. First off I 100% built this system myself from scratch with no help from any tuner. I bounced a couple questions off a few people in the industry, and had Justin check a few logs, besides that its been me blowing everyones ear drums out at the shop until I got it dialed. Seriously where do people come up with this stuff, I have never even worked with a tuner in Colorado...
    Feel free to respond if correcting info or telling us what it is.

    Why the secrecy though? You posted it so you clearly want to show you have it.

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    Dean Fuhriman I am working on launch control of 6MT on flash only ...
    I am still working on some problems ...



    Posted in a FB group a day ago.

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    That doesn't mention Tony or VTT at all. You know what they say about assumptions.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by KevinC39 Click here to enlarge
    That doesn't mention Tony or VTT at all. You know what they say about assumptions.

    I know.
    Also, when has Tony ever done his own tuning?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by iminhell1 Click here to enlarge
    I know.
    Also, when has Tony ever done his own tuning?
    Tony does quite a bit of tuning on his own. Has for many years. We do often work with a variety of very skilled tuners but supposing that Tony does no tuning couldn’t be further from the truth. If you knew Tony and how impatient he is, as well as how often he wants to try new things this would be obvious to you. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Chris@VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Tony does quite a bit of tuning on his own. Has for many years. We do often work with a variety of very skilled tuners but supposing that Tony does no tuning couldn’t be further from the truth. If you knew Tony and how impatient he is, as well as how often he wants to try new things this would be obvious to you. Click here to enlarge
    Is this going to be released or is this just for personal testing?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Is this going to be released or is this just for personal testing?
    This isn't something we would market, or look to make money on. This is what I look at as time spent on a competitive advantage. As you well know this is a competitive platform, and any edge found is one kept close to the chest at least for me. If this were as easy as a WOT-box, and some anti-lag logic its pretty safe to say everyone would be able to do it, and be doing it I found it was quite a bit more involved than that to get it working in a way that is actually usable.

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    Any plans to release this to your customers? I know a hella lot of people that could care less how you did it but would let you install it on their cars for $$$

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 135iTX Click here to enlarge
    I know a hella lot of people that could care less how you did it
    Certain people would rip this off in seconds.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Certain people would rip this off in seconds.
    To be clear I'm referring to 'the other guys' in Tony's comment. I assume he's also right about them over blowing what's involved.

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    at least share with your customers Click here to enlarge

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    Well if it's more than the WOT box and our BEF anti-lag tables, then the only other competent I can think of is also integrating in PI control to dump fuel during the anti-lag.

    We've got the JB4 connected to all three.. Coil power, anti-lag logic, and port injection control.. Would be easy to try! Payam, bring your 335 in tomorrow. lol
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Well if it's more than the WOT box and our BEF anti-lag tables, then the only other competent I can think of is also integrating in PI control to dump fuel during the anti-lag.

    We've got the JB4 connected to all three.. Coil power, anti-lag logic, and port injection control.. Would be easy to try! Payam, bring your 335 in tomorrow. lol
    Yea, that's the only thing I can think of as well is to add more fuel. I'll bring the car tomorrow Click here to enlarge
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    So it turns out STEP+AntiLag = Awesome. Not sure if Tony figured out something beyond this but you guys are going to like this change.

    PS. I tried dumping a little PI on top of it but it didn't really improve things further.

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    That just made like 12 pounds of boost lol. Oh crap, this is going to be fun.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    So it turns out STEP+AntiLag = Awesome. Not sure if Tony figured out something beyond this but you guys are going to like this change.

    PS. I tried dumping a little PI on top of it but it didn't really improve things further.
    So is this the same thing or your take on it?

    This will be offered to JB4 guys, right?

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    No idea what Tony is cooking.. But, this seems to work well. I was testing this at my house and the HOA rolled up and started $#@!ing. Thought I was shooting in the yard at first lol. So had to pack it up for the day. Will work on it more next week. Click here to enlarge
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    Terry just listening to your backfires I can tell you don't have it. Once its right, its completely smooth, its not jumping around, and popping like that.

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    So again the non-tuner does what tuners say isn't possible, and all of sudden the tuners are all over it. Gotta love it, reminds of those other guys telling me I would never make more than 650WHP DI only without injector tables..Click here to enlarge Keep trying, you may get it.
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