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    God it's such a messy procedure. Can't wait for the day when you can pull the old pump out and put a new uprated one in it's place! Yes probably requiring an uprated fuel rail as well unless it can just maintain the same pressures but with more flow.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AWSAWS Click here to enlarge
    God it's such a messy procedure. Can't wait for the day when you can pull the old pump out and put a new uprated one in it's place! Yes probably requiring an uprated fuel rail as well unless it can just maintain the same pressures but with more flow.
    Yeah it's a pain in the ass but there is no upgraded HPFP unfortunately. At least this is a direct injection solution and probably the only one that is cost effective.

    One pump would be nicer but who has the f'ing pump? Only the N55 and S55 have an upgraded HPFP option in the BMW world right now.
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    Yes Idnan had a wrecked M4 he was breaking. This is the engine and right there, the massive HPFP!
    Shame we can't run those on our N54s.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AWSAWS Click here to enlarge
    Yes Idnan had a wrecked M4 he was breaking. This is the engine and right there, the massive HPFP!
    Shame we can't run those on our N54s.
    It was talked about several times but did anyone try to retrofit it? The conclusion I think was that it just wouldn't work.
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    Wait there's a N55 upgrade?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by iminhell1 Click here to enlarge
    Wait there's a N55 upgrade?
    Yeah, S55 retrofit.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Yeah, S55 retrofit.
    Lucky for them!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AWSAWS Click here to enlarge
    Lucky for them!
    And there are upgraded S55 pumps coming: https://www.boostaddict.com/content....-M4-S55-motors
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Yeah, S55 retrofit.
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    And there are upgraded S55 pumps coming: https://www.boostaddict.com/content....-M4-S55-motors

    Well the late '10 N54 has the same pump as the EN55's, far as parts says. So doesn't seem to be a far stretch that the upgrade should work ....

    I'm a late '10.


    Looks like it's just regulator that changes ...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by iminhell1 Click here to enlarge
    Well the late '10 N54 has the same pump as the EN55's, far as parts says. So doesn't seem to be a far stretch that the upgrade should work ....

    I'm a late '10. ...
    All N54s have the same HPFP as 2011 N55s. Late 2012 N55s switched to the newer style.
    Looks like it's just regulator that changes

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    Not sure what's being said here. Is the later N54 HPFP the same as the 2011 N55 pump with the exception of the regulator? Or is it the same as the new style N55 pump, with the exception of the regulator?

    Sorry for being dense!

    Neil

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AWSAWS Click here to enlarge
    Yes Idnan had a wrecked M4 he was breaking. This is the engine and right there, the massive HPFP!
    Shame we can't run those on our N54s.

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    Yes you can you just to run a syvecs to control it which is costly to say the least.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by martymil Click here to enlarge
    Yes you can you just to run a syvecs to control it which is costly to say the least.
    And the Syvecs can control port injection at the same time.

    Seems nobody has done it though...
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    Direct injection is the best way so either you run a double barrel or an s55 setup

    Syvevs can control anything and everything with the extra outputs it only a matter how big your wallet is.

    Syvecs will open up a plethora of fueling option its only up to your imagination and needs how you want to do it

    For 99% of us a double barrel is more than ample

    It's really the single turbo guys that will run out of fuel and need some kind of port injection stacked with a single shotgun to help with the down low needs and spool of the turbob as the fuel system really struggles with anything less

    Costly yes bit its the only safe solution currently available for single guys

    I'm not telling.anyone how to do it its really an observation from what i seen
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by martymil Click here to enlarge
    Syvevs can control anything and everything with the extra outputs it only a matter how big your wallet is.

    Syvecs will open up a plethora of fueling option its only up to your imagination and needs how you want to do it
    Exactly, but when getting a Syvecs and dialing it in with supporting mods costs more than what the car does at what point do you simply move on?
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    For me there is no other platform that is as cheap and fun as the 1m

    I can't see myself moving on anytime soon, so a syvecs makes sense

    But that's me
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by martymil Click here to enlarge
    For me there is no other platform that is as cheap and fun as the 1m

    I can't see myself moving on anytime soon, so a syvecs makes sense

    But that's me
    Well you make a good point with the 1M. You're somewhat unique in that regard.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AWSAWS Click here to enlarge
    Yes Idnan had a wrecked M4 he was breaking. This is the engine and right there, the massive HPFP!
    Shame we can't run those on our N54s.
    It was talked about several times but did anyone try to retrofit it? The conclusion I think was that it just wouldn't work.
    In theory the vacuum pump should bolt up. It uses the same sprocket as the N54 to drive the pump which drives the camshaft for the dual HPFP. Pretty much the discussions that have come up are mere conjecture and there has been no actual R&D done (that I recall) cause its too expensive of a risk. Even if it does work, well this is the N54 community, the majority not gonna pay $4k+ for a HPFP. Look at the reaction of people when they saw the price tag for M4 dual HPFP kit for the M2

    Sometimes people have to move forward independently to get things done if you want a clean install mod upgrade.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BQ@BQTuning.com Click here to enlarge
    In theory the vacuum pump should bolt up. It uses the same sprocket as the N54 to drive the pump which drives the camshaft for the dual HPFP. Pretty much the discussions that have come up are mere conjecture and there has been no actual R&D done (that I recall) cause its too expensive of a risk. Even if it does work, well this is the N54 community, the majority not gonna pay $4k+ for a HPFP. Look at the reaction of people when they saw the price tag for M4 dual HPFP kit for the M2

    Sometimes people have to move forward independently to get things done if you want a clean install mod upgrade.
    It's going to be hard to swallow when in their mind they can slap on a cheap port injection solution. Even if that is the less effective and riskier option.
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    I thought there was a company (TuningTech FS) already claiming that they have a S55 setup on a N54 already. IF I remember correctly they were saying the cost of the setup is less than the $5k people were throwing around. I'm not sure how much less though.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TEC Click here to enlarge
    I thought there was a company (TuningTech FS) already claiming that they have a S55 setup on a N54 already. IF I remember correctly they were saying the cost of the setup is less than the $5k people were throwing around. I'm not sure how much less though.
    TTFS has an N55B30T0 setup...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
    TTFS has an N55B30T0 setup...
    They also said that they are testing an N54 setup as well...if I remember correctly.

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