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    • A look at the Magic Motorsport BMW F-Series OBD-II handheld ECU flash tuner for the N13, N20, B47, N47, N55, S55, N57, N63TU, and S63TU engines

      As you likely know the big news this week was that OBD-II port ECU flashing is now possible with BMW F-Series models. This is big as owners no longer have to remove their ECU's to send in to tuner for manual unlocking which opens up major possibilities.


      Let's start with models are supported by the @MAGICMOTORSPORT system and the basic requirements:

      Supported vehicle models:
      BMW: F01, F02, F06, F07, F10, F11, F15, F16, F18, F25, F26, F30, F31, F32, F34, F36, F80, F85, F86 Mini: F55, F56, F57

      Supported engine models:
      BMW: N13, N20, B47, N47, N55, S55, N57, N63TU, S63TU (excludes only: B48 and B58)

      Minimum requirements:
      PC requirements:
      MCU: Dual Core i3
      RAM: 4GB
      OS: MS Windows 7,8 or 10 x32/x64
      Ports: 1 x USB2.0 port, 1 x RJ45 Ethernet port
      Network: mandatory internet connection (the IP address of the PC must be assigned by the DHCP server)

      Vehicle requirements:
      Battery recharger required min. 50A

      Most F-Series engines are supported except for the new B38, B48, and B58 motors.

      That is a long list of models and motors so why are we putting this post in the S55 section? Because BimmerBoost knows of a tuner who will be using the Magic Motorsport handheld flasher to tune an F82 M4.

      We intend to bring you those results as soon as write mode is enabled after December 24th.

      Think of it this way, once the tuner complete their tune in theory they could send you that tune and you could flash your own M4 right at home. Now you see just how big of a deal this is.

      How much is the system? European pricing is 1900 Euros: https://www.magicmotorsport.com/shop...x-obd-flasher/

      Expect US pricing from dealers soon.

      Keep in mind there are several features supported:


      The big one there is the CVN fix. What this does is it makes it impossible for the dealer to know your ECU was tuned. Very nice for those who want peace of mind with potential warranty issues.

      Expect more details as the flashing tools get out there later this month.






      This article was originally published in forum thread: A look at the Magic Motorsport BMW F-Series OBD-II handheld ECU flash tuner for the N13, N20, B47, N47, N55, S55, N57, N63TU, and S63TU engines started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 32 Comments
      1. bradsm87's Avatar
        bradsm87 -
        Looks great but the price isn't right. I'd take an unlock and Bootmod3 and keep the left over USD$1500.
      1. RobNyc's Avatar
        RobNyc -
        @MAGICMOTORSPORT Partner up with the Real Deal Holyfield lol Bootmod3 and get this rolling.
      1. MAGICMOTORSPORT's Avatar
        MAGICMOTORSPORT -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bradsm87 Click here to enlarge
        Looks great but the price isn't right. I'd take an unlock and Bootmod3 and keep the left over USD$1500.
        Hello
        This is tool for tuners, not for endusers.

        We are looking for reliable ditributors in US to propose our enduser project.

        Best regards
        BogdanS
        mms.center
      1. ptper's Avatar
        ptper -
        The way I'm seeing this is that the dealers from the tuning companies will be picking this up. The tuning companies will write the tune to be flashed by the new handheld. So, customers would have the choice of purchasing the handheld or going to the dealers to get flashed. I guess the most economical would be to have the dealers flash the tune. That's how the Audi B8's did it. You'd pay roughly $2k for the tune and an hour of labor for the dealer to flash (which never takes more than 20 minutes, lol). The dealer may also get a cut of the tune pricing, but essentially with this loader the customer base increases because of the convenience factor and the option to flash back to stock.
      1. RobNyc's Avatar
        RobNyc -
        What about "We intend to bring you those results as soon as write mode is enabled after December 24th."

        Can't write until Dec 24th
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by RobNyc Click here to enlarge
        What about "We intend to bring you those results as soon as write mode is enabled after December 24th."

        Can't write until Dec 24th
        What about it?
      1. RobNyc's Avatar
        RobNyc -
        What does "cant write until dec 24th" means lol so they dont have write mode enabled yet?
        This something @MAGICMOTORSPORT can answer
      1. bradsm87's Avatar
        bradsm87 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MAGICMOTORSPORT Click here to enlarge
        Hello
        This is tool for tuners, not for endusers.

        We are looking for reliable ditributors in US to propose our enduser project.

        Best regards
        BogdanS
        mms.center
        Great. I look forward to seeing single VIN licenses for self-tuners or remote-customers much cheaper Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by RobNyc Click here to enlarge
        What does "cant write until dec 24th" means lol so they dont have write mode enabled yet?
        This something @MAGICMOTORSPORT can answer
        They don't have it enabled because they were waiting on a patent... not sure what's funny?
      1. MAGICMOTORSPORT's Avatar
        MAGICMOTORSPORT -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by RobNyc Click here to enlarge
        What does "cant write until dec 24th" means lol so they dont have write mode enabled yet?
        This something @MAGICMOTORSPORT can answer
        The tool at the moment permit IDENT (to check if vehicle is supported) and VREADD. So tuner can prepare modifications. Then starting from dec 24th we will enable WRITE button.
        We need this time for administrative purposes.

        Best regards
        BogdanS
        mms.center
      1. AWSAWS's Avatar
        AWSAWS -
        Glad I have an N54 and MHD flasher then $80 or whatever. Then couple hundred dollars for custom tunes...
      1. M5Dan's Avatar
        M5Dan -
        I hope Active Autowerke gets one so they can ODB flash my CPO M5.
      1. lulz_m3's Avatar
        lulz_m3 -
        Interesting that they believe they will get a patent. Are Hackers going to start applying for patents each time they discover a security vulnerability?
      1. Bowser330's Avatar
        Bowser330 -
        what about F90?
      1. Eleventeen's Avatar
        Eleventeen -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
        Interesting that they believe they will get a patent. Are Hackers going to start applying for patents each time they discover a security vulnerability?
        That would be kind of ironic; getting a patent on your intellectual property that is being used to circumvent someone else's intellectual property LOL. However, they could likely get a patent on the hardware.
      1. Eleventeen's Avatar
        Eleventeen -
        So, if a tuner invests in this technology, how does the end-user implement this at home? Does the tuner loan them the tool so they can plug into their OBD port before loading the tuner's file? Or would you have to take your car to the tuner's facility?
      1. lulz_m3's Avatar
        lulz_m3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eleventeen Click here to enlarge
        That would be kind of ironic; getting a patent on your intellectual property that is being used to circumvent someone else's intellectual property LOL. However, they could likely get a patent on the hardware.
        Their cable appears to just be a ENET cable with a fancy logo. What do they have hardware wise that seems to be patent-able?

        The unfortunate truth is that other tuners will just read out the rom and apply the crack themselves. Unless they are somehow building write protection into the ROM.
      1. Eleventeen's Avatar
        Eleventeen -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
        Their cable appears to just be a ENET cable with a fancy logo. What do they have hardware wise that seems to be patent-able?

        The unfortunate truth is that other tuners will just read out the rom and apply the crack themselves. Unless they are somehow building write protection into the ROM.
        I'm thinking their software might only work with their specific (modified) cable. For example the Bavarian Technic software requires you to use the provided OBDII cable. If they can hang the patent on the hardware, they have a legitimate product to protect. That's what I would try to do, but I'm not well versed in this field.
      1. lulz_m3's Avatar
        lulz_m3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eleventeen Click here to enlarge
        I'm thinking their software might only work with their specific (modified) cable. For example the Bavarian Technic software requires you to use the provided OBDII cable. If they can hang the patent on the hardware, they have a legitimate product to protect. That's what I would try to do, but I'm not well versed in this field.
        Perhaps, but i would assume if they are going through the trouble of patenting something, it would be in relation to how they are bypassing the DME security. How their application authenticates with their hardware would do nothing to protect that, only modifying the code on the DME to somehow authenticate to their app/hardware would; or just blocking write capabilities entirely.
      1. C5LS6_CLS55's Avatar
        C5LS6_CLS55 -
        Does this work on the N63 non tu?