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    • And the Nissan GTR is in the 6's - AMS and Syvecs produce world's first 6 second GTR

      We all knew it was just a matter of time. Being the first Nissan GTR to crack the 6's is a huge deal. Various tuners have battled for the honor over the past year but only one could claim the crown. Congratulations are in order to AMS Performance.


      The GTR is tuned on a Syvecs ECU but further details beyond that are hard to come by as the record pass happened not too long ago. This thread will be updated with details on the Alpha Performance Alpha G GTR by Diamonds by Wire Racing as they come out.

      What we do now is the car managed an insane 1.213 60 foot time and broke into the 6's at 196.27 miles per hour. Just a crazy fast achievement and it deserves all the credit in the world.


      This article was originally published in forum thread: And the Nissan GTR is in the 6's - AMS and Syvecs produce world's first 6 second GTR started by Sticky View original post
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      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Billet Block, Air/Water Intercooling, Front Mount GTX Twins (possibly GT6041s), every Carbon Fiber piece available. Think he said it was currently running in the 2,500 WHP area at the GTR World Cup, but who knows how actually powerful it is.
      1. SpeedLimit?'s Avatar
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        That's a fantastic article. Wish it was mine:

        SPEC SHEET

        VEHICLE
        Year / Make / Model: 2013 Nissan GT-R
        Chassis Code: DBA R35
        Competition Class: Unlimited
        Vehicle Weight: 3,675 lbs with driver
        Launch RPM: 5,700 RPM
        Shift RPM: 9,600 RPM
        Redline RPM: 10,000 RPM
        Peak Boost: 70+ psi
        Fuel: Methanol
        ENGINE
        Engine Code: VR38DETT
        Displacement (cc): 3,983.2cc
        Bore & Stroke (mm): 98 mm x 88mm
        Peak Horsepower (@ RPM): 1,675whp on Wastegate
        2,500+whp @ 70+ psi
        Peak Torque (@ RPM): Unknown
        Dyno Type: Dynojet AWD Dynamometer
        Engine Builder: Scott Priebe of AMS Performance
        Block Modifications: ALPHA Billet Aluminum Block V2
        Machine Work: ALPHA
        Pistons/Compression Ratio: ALPHA Spec Pistons by Manley Performance
        Piston Rings: ALPHA Spec Rings by Manley Performance
        Connecting Rods / Crank: ALPHA Spec Aluminum Rods
        Camshafts: ALPHA Spec Cams by Kelford Cams
        Bearings, Main and Rod: ALPHA Spec Bearings by King Bearings
        Valves / Springs / Retainers: Ferrea Dual Springs & Retainers
        Cylinder Head Modifications: ALPHA Spec CNC Ported Cylinder Heads
        Cylinder Head Gasket(s): ALPHA Spec Head Gaskets
        Head / Main Studs: ALPHA Spec Head and Main Studs
        Intake Manifold / Throttle Body: ALPHA Triple Rail Carbon Fiber Intake Manifold
        ALPHA 75mm Billet Throttle Bodies (x2)
        Air Induction System: ALPHA G Custom Air Horn Intakes (x2)
        Exhaust Manifold: ALPHA G custom SS Exhaust Manifolds
        Exhaust System / Downpipe: ALPHA G Custom 4-inch Twin Exhaust
        Wastegate: TiAL Sport MVR Wastegates (x2)
        Blow-Off Valve: TiAL Sport 50mm Blow-off Valves (x2)
        Intercooler: ALPHA Air-to-Water Intercoolers
        (Garrett Cores x2)
        Fuel Injectors: Injector Dynamics I2000 Injectors (x6), Primary
        Moran 6,000 cc/min (x6), Secondary
        Fuel Pump(s): T1 Race Mechanical Fuel Pump
        Fuel Cell: ALPHA Spec Custom Fuel Cell
        Engine Management System: Syvecs ECU
        Engine Management Tuner: Martin Musial of AMS Performance
        Boost Controller: ALPHA Boost Control Solenoids
        Ignition System: M&W Pro6 Ignition
        Spark Plugs: NGK Methanol Spark Plugs
        Cooling System: APLHA Auxiliary Oil Cooler
        Oil System: Magnus Motorsport Dry Sump System,
        modified by AMS
        TURBOCHARGER
        Turbochargers: Garrett GTX (x2) Undisclosed
        Frame: T4
        Compressor Wheel Specs: Undisclosed
        Turbine Wheel Specs: Undisclosed
        Turbine Housing: Undisclosed
        CHASSIS/DRIVELINE
        Springs, F&R (Make & Rate): ALPHA spec Drag Race Springs
        Shocks, F&R (Make & Rate): ALPHA spec Drag Race Dampers
        Additional Suspension Components: SPL Camber, Caster & Traction Bars (F&R)
        Transmission: Sheptrans Stage F Custom build
        Transmission Gearing: Factory Gear Ratios
        Clutch / Flywheel: Dodson Motorsports Custom 13-plate Clutch
        Axles / Driveshaft: Drive Shaft Shop Axles & Hubs (R)
        Wheels (Make, Size & Offset): T1 Race/Belak 17-inch (F) & 15-inch (R)
        Tires (Make & Size): 28-inch Hoosier 17-inch Slick (F)
        28-inch MT 15-inch Slick (R)
        Brake System: T1 Race Custom Small Brake Kit (F&R)
        INTERIOR
        Roll Bar / Cage: ALPHA G Roll Cage
        Seats: ALPHA Carbon Seat by Tillett Racing Seats
        Harnesses: Schroth 6-point Harness
        Steering Wheel / Quick Release: Sparco R383 Steering Wheel & Quick Release
        Etc.: Custom Fire Suppression System
        EXTERIOR
        Hood and Trunk Lid: ALPHA Carbon/Kevlar
        Spoiler / Wing: T1 Race Carbon Drag wing
        Doors: Overtake Carbon-fiber Doors
        ALPHA Custom Carbon-fiber Door Panels
        Mirrors: ALPHA Carbon-fiber Mirror Delete
        Paint: Bright White
        Custom Body Work: ALPHA Carbon/Kevlar Roof Panel
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      1. SpeedLimit?'s Avatar
        SpeedLimit? -
        I'm both amazed and disappointed by these cars now. The performance and power is amazing, but the use of methanol and the need to rebuild after almost every run now makes them more comparable to funny cars and less so to street cars. The driver said the car started breaking up at the end of the run in 5th & 6th then said he was done for the day because he was happy to finally hit the 6s...i think the motor popped again. Still amazing but this is an all out race car now and can't be related back to the streetcar as much as before.
      1. lulz_m3's Avatar
        lulz_m3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SpeedLimit? Click here to enlarge
        I'm both amazed and disappointed by these cars now. The performance and power is amazing, but the use of methanol and the need to rebuild after almost every run now makes them more comparable to funny cars and less so to street cars. The driver said the car started breaking up at the end of the run in 5th & 6th then said he was done for the day because he was happy to finally hit the 6s...i think the motor popped again. Still amazing but this is an all out race car now and can't be related back to the streetcar as much as before.
        They dont rebuild the engines after every run LOL, and what street car runs 6's? Cant we just appreciate the achievement?

        This is what pushing the envelop is always about.
      1. SpeedLimit?'s Avatar
        SpeedLimit? -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
        They dont rebuild the engines after every run LOL, and what street car runs 6's? Cant we just appreciate the achievement?
        This is what pushing the envelop is always about.
        I said i'm AMAZED & disappointed. Before they had to switch to front mounting the turbos it was more exciting knowing the set-ups were streetable and at one point closing in on the lambos. Still crazy what they're doing but more in the vein of all out drag cars more so than insanely powerful streetcars.

        I also read an article about the Alpha G owner's last car that had the Alpha 10, 12, 14, 16, 18 & 20 kits which states a lot of those upgrades were the result of the motor needing a "refresh". I understand things break when pushing the envelope but the concept of bulletproof appears to be a thing of the past which sucks because these kits are advertised as daily drivers that can dominate on the track which you can drive home with.

        http://dsportmag.com/the-cars/ams-an...cond-r35-gt-r/

        Futhermore, do travel like this if you're not constantly rebuilding the motor? @0:08
      1. Bowser330's Avatar
        Bowser330 -
        The flawed 0-60 calculator I use says the car, based on the 1/8 mile numbers, did 0-60 in 0.58 seconds!

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      1. Jake@Eurocharged.com's Avatar
        Jake@Eurocharged.com -
        Sticky I think you are missing the coolest parts of the record...

        How about how the engine harness caught fire, and they replaced everything overnight? Or that he went through 3 engines and 4 trans during tx2k. Now that....is dedication to winning
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jake@Eurocharged.com Click here to enlarge
        Sticky I think you are missing the coolest parts of the record...

        How about how the engine harness caught fire, and they replaced everything overnight? Or that he went through 3 engines and 4 trans during tx2k. Now that....is dedication to winning
        I wish I had people that dedicated to setting records.
      1. Jake@Eurocharged.com's Avatar
        Jake@Eurocharged.com -
        there is a pretty cool video of the fire/ fix someone floating around fb
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SpeedLimit? Click here to enlarge
        I'm both amazed and disappointed by these cars now. The performance and power is amazing, but the use of methanol and the need to rebuild after almost every run now makes them more comparable to funny cars and less so to street cars. The driver said the car started breaking up at the end of the run in 5th & 6th then said he was done for the day because he was happy to finally hit the 6s...i think the motor popped again. Still amazing but this is an all out race car now and can't be related back to the streetcar as much as before.
        I've been thinking more about your point here and you are right.

        This is an incredible achievement. It's mind blowing really.

        However, the GTR made its reputation as offering super fast street performance. Just look a the mod list and you can see the car is stripped out with a cage not to mention barely supporting the power for repeatable runs. It's a drag car built to take a record and the hell with reliability.

        That is far from an everyday GTR not that those can not be fast as well.

        Since there is a 6 second car now other tuners will be pressed to join the 6's or they will look like they can't do it. Over time this level may become more reliable but this is pretty far from a streetable setup.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jake@Eurocharged.com Click here to enlarge
        there is a pretty cool video of the fire/ fix someone floating around fb
        Are you referring to this? https://www.facebook.com/officialams...54922428827881

        For some reason it won't embed.
      1. Jake@Eurocharged.com's Avatar
        Jake@Eurocharged.com -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Are you referring to this? https://www.facebook.com/officialams...54922428827881

        For some reason it won't embed.
        yup, I think I had seen it on his personal fb
      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
        It is definitely badass.
        A top fuel dragster is 500 cubic inches which is 8.19 L displacement. That is just over twice the size of this motor and only 2 more cylinders.
        A top fuel dragster makes something on the order of 10k+ hp so this GTR engine would have to be making more than 5000hp to be similar specific output.
        They run methanol and not nitromethane so its definitely not the same thing, and I really don't think they have to be rebuilt all the time, they just wanted lots of backup when they were going balls out for the record. If you are hunting for a record and timing is key (it seems very important to him that he was first in 9s, 8s, 7s, and 6s) then you are gunna do some risky $#@!.
        I don't think that really takes away from the record at all. His doors still open, its still AWD, it still uses the OEM engine architecture, it is still DCT so it could definitely be daily driven without too much work (no giant stall converter).
        I dunno, I think its cool as tits!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        It's insanely cool.

        I think people were just saying it's not really realistic to expect this as you need to carry four spare blocks around with you everytime you go WOT...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Here's a Youtube version of the video:

      1. SpeedLimit?'s Avatar
        SpeedLimit? -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It's insanely cool.

        I think people were just saying it's not really realistic to expect this as you need to carry four spare blocks around with you everytime you go WOT...
        LMAO, exactly! Because even with streetcars you're not going kill mode 24/7 so you wouldn't want to have to rebuild your engine almost every time you actually do. Plus i'm not sure if they make flex fuel systems that account for methanol or street tuning for 6000cc injectors, lol. Still a sick race car without a doubt.
      1. csu87's Avatar
        csu87 -
        Its impressive regardless. The fact that they are doing this with the VR38 is what makes it impressive imo.

        No one looks at a 6 second car and thinks daily driver anyway, so talking about the reliability or driveability is pointless. No different than the 6 second supras running the 2JZ.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by csu87 Click here to enlarge
        The fact that they are doing this with the VR38 is what makes it impressive imo.
        Very true, but it's very far from a standard VR38. We're talking ground up billet blocks that along cost something like $20k+: http://www.boostaddict.com/showthrea...f-displacement
      1. SpeedLimit?'s Avatar
        SpeedLimit? -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by csu87 Click here to enlarge
        Its impressive regardless. The fact that they are doing this with the VR38 is what makes it impressive imo.

        No one looks at a 6 second RACEcar and thinks daily driver anyway, so talking about the reliability or driveability is pointless. No different than the 6 second supras running the 2JZ.
        Fixed it for you.