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    • Spoiled/entitled McLaren 675LT owners consider lawsuit over depreciation due to 688HS introduction

      On a McLaren forum called entitledrichdoldspoiledtinywrinklypenis.com or some variation thereof owners of the limited edition 675LT model are pissed off. Why? Because an even higher performance variant called the 688HS (High Sport) is on a the way which adversely affects the value of the 675LT.


      As astounding as it sounds, McLaren did not just pause development of future vehicles to cater to the finances of a bunch of rich guys that bought the 675LT. The car starts at $349,500 and was supposed to be limited to 500 units but McLaren also introduced the $372,600 675LT Spider variant which is also limited to 500 units.

      Coupe owners are upset their car is not quite as limited as they thought due to the convertible. Technically, McLaren did limit the coupe to 500 units as the convertible is a new model and clearly not the exact same thing as the coupe. McLaren did nothing wrong producing another 675LT option with a removable roof.

      Is anyone shedding any tears for guys that can afford to spend nearly $400k on a car just because McLaren decides to continue to make money instead of making them money? Is McLaren in the business of making new cars to sell or preserving the value of past cars? Did anyone tell these buyers their $400k toy is not some protected investment? Who knew a sports car could be a depreciating asset?

      Look at this entitled/spoiled asshole complaining:


      This guy is just a total entitled douchebag:


      He predicts there will be lawsuits because he thinks McLaren stating they will make 500 675LT coupe models means it somehow invalidates the possibility of any other variant. McLaren did not exceed their claim of coupes being produced. McLaren also never stated they would not produce any other variant and any intelligent person would look at precedent where McLaren produced both coupe and convertible models of the MP4-12C and 650S. One should also take into account the depreciation of those models. Ferrari made a convertible version of the F430 Scuderia, didn't they? Did F430 Scuderia owners lose their minds and threaten to sue?

      This delusional asshat actually thinks McLaren should provide a full refund even to people that already took delivery of their cars and who put miles on them. Could you imagine buying a brand new car, driving it for a year, and then going back to the dealership when next year's model comes out stating you deserve a full refund and a new car at the same cost? The general manager should slap reality into someone like that.

      The problem here is not McLaren introducing new models. It is greed. It is entitlement. It is the idea that because someone paid so much for a car it means they are special and somehow above depreciation or the introduction of models that adversely affect the value of the cars they purchased. These guys think they are so special that they are no longer living in reality. This is part of the problem of catering to this clientele as they expect the world to revolve around them because it so often does. The 675LT is a $400k toy. It is not a stock, it is not a bond, and McLaren doesn't owe them a damn thing let alone protecting the value of their luxury purchases by not producing newer and better models.

      This is the right attitude:

      I really fail to understand why is the 688HS getting everyones panty's in a bunch?

      If tomorrow I was in a position to walk up to MSO and design my own little special edition of 10 cars for distribution/sale to whoever I choose, why should this be an issue to others? THIS is the very purpose of MSO's existence.

      The more I see everyone complaining and crying about customer special editions, the more I realize that most people who are buying these cars are buying it to flip it at some point (if not right away) and not really use them for the purpose they are meant for. For once, forget about the fact that the 675LT is a special edition for the sake of resale or value, and see it from the perspective of it capabilities and what its meant for. - Just take it on the track, thrash it and let your passion for motorsports overcome it all. You already own or are soon going to own one of the best driving machines EVER produced and that which is limited to 1000 pieces ON THE DUCKING PLANET, isn't that fortunate enough?
      This isn't:

      There is a rumour that McLaren is dealing with a lawsuit from P1 owners because it was leaked that the P14 is actually quicker on a track. whether true or not its interesting. Any P1 owners that can confirm that this lawsuit is going on?
      Threatening to sue because your car is no longer the hottest thing on the market is idiotic. I hope McLaren releases a new 'special edition' model every other week and it drops McLaren values like a rock. STFU already you spoiled brats.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: Spoiled/entitled McLaren 675LT owners consider lawsuit over depreciation due to 688HS introduction started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Zeee_Q's Avatar
        Zeee_Q -
        They may not win in court against McLaren, but it sure isn't a good way to do business if you want loyal customers.
        When selling the original 675LT coupe, the dealers probably thought McLaren would remain true to their roots and keep the LT designation for hardcore track cars, hence the coupe not convertible. But when they realized they were leaving additional money on the table by not satisfying demand, they decided to take the short term money vs building customer loyalty and brand value.

        I think McLaren was trying to do what Ferrari was doing with the special editions, the key difference being the Ferraris values dropped initially, but are now trading above msrp.

        At the end of the day, progress is good and hopefully this pushes slightly used McLaren prices into more affordable ranges.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Zeee_Q Click here to enlarge
        When selling the original 675LT coupe, the dealers probably thought McLaren would remain true to their roots and keep the LT designation for hardcore track cars, hence the coupe not convertible. But when they realized they were leaving additional money on the table by not satisfying demand, they decided to take the short term money vs building customer loyalty and brand value.
        Exactly. A business saw an opportunity for profit and made profit. I guarantee you McLaren will continue to make awesome cars and people will continue to buy them.
      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
        I don't think I would buy any mclaren right now even if I had the money for a P1. A friend bought a 570S a few months ago and is already thinking about pursuing lemon law...it has been in the shop like 6 times now and currently the windows won't roll up and something is the electrical system, tons of problems.
        Icing on the cake is he traded an R8 in when he bought the 570S and the R8 was dead reliable daily.
      1. SpeedLimit?'s Avatar
        SpeedLimit? -
        @Sticky, there's rumors all 25 HS builds have been allocated to one buyer
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Autocar Click here to enlarge
        McLaren Special Operations (MSO) has developed and will build the HS; according to a number of reports, all 25 have already been sold. However, there are conflicting reports about who those cars have been sold to.Some reports suggest that each car has been sold of a different individual. That would make the HS a ‘conventional’, limited-run special edition, albeit one with a near-limitless level of personalization available. That means those 675LT owners would be justified in feeling aggrieved they’re car has once again been usurped in both extremeness and exclusivity.
        But other reports indicate that all 25 have been bought by a single customer, though whether that means an individual, a group of connected individuals, or a dealer hasn’t been explained. But if that is the case, it means the HS is a bespoke commission and, as such, doesn’t detract from the 675LT too much.
        It's all a bit mysterious, but what really matters here is that the HS looks like it'll be absolutely awesome.
        http://www.motor1.com/news/94357/mcl...-run-sold-out/
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SpeedLimit? Click here to enlarge
        @Sticky, there's rumors all 25 HS builds have been allocated to one buyer


        http://www.motor1.com/news/94357/mcl...-run-sold-out/
        I don't even know what to say to this.
      1. SpeedLimit?'s Avatar
        SpeedLimit? -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I don't even know what to say to this.
        You and me both...
      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
        This is really bizarre. Why is the McLaren scene so dramatic?
        Don't those people have anything better to do? Like argue on a car forum about whether or not the N54 is the new 2JZ? Or if the N54 is better than the S65? Click here to enlarge
      1. Alpina_B3_Lux's Avatar
        Alpina_B3_Lux -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by subaru335i Click here to enlarge
        I don't think I would buy any mclaren right now even if I had the money for a P1. A friend bought a 570S a few months ago and is already thinking about pursuing lemon law...it has been in the shop like 6 times now and currently the windows won't roll up and something is the electrical system, tons of problems.
        Icing on the cake is he traded an R8 in when he bought the 570S and the R8 was dead reliable daily.
        That's one of the reasons why I didn't buy an MP4-12C and got the R8 instead. No regrets!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Alpina_B3_Lux Click here to enlarge
        That's one of the reasons why I didn't buy an MP4-12C and got the R8 instead. No regrets!
        Your R8 was a great choice. I really want one but then $50k to turbo on top is tough to swallow.