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    • 2020 Cadillac CT5-V test - 3993 lb curb weight, 0-60 4.8, 1/4 mile 13.3@107

      It's hard to get excited about the new 2020 Cadillac CT5-V from a performance standpoint. The Germans simply have Cadillac outgunned at any point in their lineup. That includes the luxury midsize sedan level that the CT5-V is attempting to break into.


      $48,690 is the base price for the car but Car and Driver tested it at $61,640 with options. A BMW 540i starts at $59,450. You can also step up to a V8 twin turbo which is something Cadillac does not have an answer to.

      So, Cadillac offers some value here with a cheaper base price than a comparable midsize Audi, BMW, or Mercedes.


      The 10-speed auto is a fine gearbox and pulling .99g on the skidpad is commendable. With 0-60 in 4.8 seconds and a 1/4 mile pass of 13.3 @ 107 mph it isn't at the top of the class but the new 360 horsepower 3.0 liter twin turbo V6 offers some punch.

      Cadillac really is not offering anything special here. The brand seems a bit lost and a 'V' badge does not belong on this car. Why would you want a CT5-V over a BMW 540i or Mercedes-AMG E53? The only reason would be because it's cheaper, not better.


      This article was originally published in forum thread: 2020 Cadillac CT5-V test - 3993 lb curb weight, 0-60 4.8, 1/4 mile 13.3@107 started by Sticky View original post
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      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        The brand seems a bit lost and a 'V' badge does not belong on this car. Why would you want a CT5-V over a BMW 540i or Mercedes-AMG E53? The only reason would be because it's cheaper, not better.
        I'll be interested in how they compare dynamically, seeing as the "performance" part of the equation isn't quite there. GM has been on an absolute roll when it comes to great handling, lets hope this model continues the trend.
      1. Valvefloat's Avatar
        Valvefloat -
        If you're going to steal performance results from car magaines, you could at list indicate which magazine went to the trouble and expense of performing the test.
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Valvefloat Click here to enlarge
        If you're going to steal performance results from car magaines, you could at list indicate which magazine went to the trouble and expense of performing the test.
        If you're going to criticize my writing you might want to learn to learn how to read:

        $48,690 is the base price for the car but Car and Driver tested it at $61,640 with options.
      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
        Fake V. The real V is apparently getting a 6.2L Supercharged like normal and rumor is manual option.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by subaru335i Click here to enlarge
        and rumor is manual option
        Would be pretty cool considering nobody else is offering manuals in this class and the previous gen was auto only.

        Hopefully they give it an LT5 and get the styling more aggressive.
      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Would be pretty cool considering nobody else is offering manuals in this class and the previous gen was auto only.

        Hopefully they give it an LT5 and get the styling more aggressive.
        LT5 would be amazing. I have a feeling they will just go LT4 and cheap out.

        But if they offer manual and LT5 I would for sure buy one to replace my V2 in a few years.
      1. richpike's Avatar
        richpike -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Valvefloat Click here to enlarge
        If you're going to steal performance results from car magaines, you could at list indicate which magazine went to the trouble and expense of performing the test.
        The table literally shows C/D as well. Even if you didn’t read the article, you’d see it from the results table. And the magazines should be grateful. I still get every single one, but often see Sticky’s write-up first and then go and read the article. If Sticky wasn’t highlighting them, I’d probably never take the time to read them.

        -Rich
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by richpike Click here to enlarge
        The table literally shows C/D as well. Even if you didn’t read the article, you’d see it from the results table. And the magazines should be grateful. I still get every single one, but often see Sticky’s write-up first and then go and read the article. If Sticky wasn’t highlighting them, I’d probably never take the time to read them.

        -Rich
        Some people just always need something to $#@! about.

        It's nice to get positive feedback from time to time.
      1. Foagy's Avatar
        Foagy -
        Jonny Lieberman published his article on Motortrend. He loved the way it drove, but I think he usually has very positive initial thoughts regardless of the car.

        https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020...v-first-drive/
      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Foagy Click here to enlarge
        Jonny Lieberman published his article on Motortrend. He loved the way it drove, but I think he usually has very positive initial thoughts regardless of the car.

        https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020...v-first-drive/
        He's also very pro American cars, so I always take his reviews with a grain of salt. Still, I trust his opinion on the dynamics.
      1. Valvefloat's Avatar
        Valvefloat -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
        If you're going to criticize my writing you might want to learn to learn how to read:

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        Fair enough, but the citation below the test results says something about the article being "originally published" in one of your boost forums, when the test numbers were originally published by Car and Driver. All I'm suggesting as they give credit where it is due.
      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Valvefloat Click here to enlarge
        Fair enough, but the citation below the test results says something about the article being "originally published" in one of your boost forums, when the test numbers were originally published by Car and Driver. All I'm suggesting as they give credit where it is due.
        It says view original post, which it says under every post that becomes an article on this website. If you actually used the site more than twice you might notice that.
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Foagy Click here to enlarge
        Jonny Lieberman published his article on Motortrend. He loved the way it drove, but I think he usually has very positive initial thoughts regardless of the car.

        https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020...v-first-drive/
        No actual test numbers though. Also, he thinks it should be positioned against the 3 series, A4, and C-Class. At 4000 pounds in rwd configuration I disagree.

        It seems Cadillac can't figure out how to directly compete always making their sedan somewhat in between. If it's a CTS replacement it's a 5 series competitor then.
      1. leveraged sellout's Avatar
        leveraged sellout -
        Who the **** is running this brand? What a joke. I'm tired of watching them trip over their own ***** every few years when they pretend to "try" again. It's embarrassing, and exhausting. It's like being stuck at a friend's wedding and watching his mother get hammered and hit on all his friends...except perhaps a bit worse.

        It's ugly as hell, almost certainly still has a **** GM interior, and has an engine with the personality of a leased laser printer. Who cares how it drives, at this point? Who can look at it? Who wants to be surrounded by yet another horrifyingly cheap & awfully constructed GM interior as it disintegrates before your eyes before the lease is even up? Who the hell wants these things? On a list of ten million words one might associate with this unfortunate car, "desirable" doesn't even appear.

        Wish they'd either figure their **** out or kick the bucket already. None of us can bear to watch this any longer.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leveraged sellout Click here to enlarge
        Wish they'd either figure their **** out or kick the bucket already. None of us can bear to watch this any longer.
        It is pretty amazing how they manage to screw it all up again and again.

        The sad thing is they have the engines and drivetrains ready to go... the hard part is done. Is it really that difficult to make a nice interior and exterior around an LT1 and sell it for less than an M3/C63 with a manual?
      1. Foagy's Avatar
        Foagy -
        Here's a direct review comparison of the CT5 sport to the 330i.



        Both are AWD, although the BMW is lacking the M-sport package. They also address the odd sizing/pricing model Cadillac is adhering to with these cars at the start of the video.

        Similar comments to the Motortrend article are made about the driving dynamics of the Cadillac, but the 2.0L powerplant lets it down in the "Sport" trim. A better matchup will be the M340i and the CT5-V (maybe with the C43 and S4 thrown in the mix), and I expect we will see a comparison review from one of the big auto magazines later in the year.