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    • Audi is attempting to coerce/trick owners into getting their ECU's scanned for logged diagnostic data at dealers

      Audi seems to be trying very hard to get certain model owners in to have their ECU's and data scanned. This letter went out to a group of owners offering them $75 or in other words attempting to bribe them to bring their car in to a dealer who would look at the onboard data.


      They say this is their commitment to quality and service but we know what it really is, checking for modified cars. You go in, they scan, they flag your car, poof, warranty gone.

      Nice try Audi.


      This article was originally published in forum thread: Audi is attempting to coerce/trick owners into getting their ECU's scanned for logged diagnostic data at dealers started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        By the way, here is another method for them to do it:

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      1. 7plagues's Avatar
        7plagues -
        maybe I will get that in the mail, I have to go in and get the navigation updated anyway, was doing a weird static screen in the gauge cluster that would come and go.

        Also these cars have a recall out for an airbag sensor in the passenger seat, so I imagine they can scan the car then too.

        Long story short, you wanna modify this car, or really any car now a days, you gotta pay to play. Not to many things a dealer can't find out or void you for at this point.

        That said, when I do mod, I'll be factoring in the cost of Rods so I have no concerns.
      1. Tony@VargasTurboTech's Avatar
        Tony@VargasTurboTech -
        These cars are are connected to the internet, and something called "Audi Connect" all the time, my car is a wifi hotspot whenever it is on. If that is what they were trying to do they would not have to use tricks, they would simply connect to your car, and scan it. This is typical internet speculation, a bunch of paranoid Audi owners...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Tony@VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
        These cars are are connected to the internet, and something called "Audi Connect" all the time, my car is a wifi hotspot whenever it is on. If that is what they were trying to do they would not have to use tricks, they would simply connect to your car, and scan it. This is typical internet speculation, a bunch of paranoid Audi owners...
        I don't think you have the upload bandwidth or ability to connect to the encrypted ECU for this data with WiFi you HAVE to use dealer tools.
      1. phyrexia's Avatar
        phyrexia -
        paranoid delusions.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by phyrexia Click here to enlarge
        paranoid delusions.
        Feel free to take your car in with a big turbo and see how it goes for yourself.
      1. phyrexia's Avatar
        phyrexia -
        Anybody who would take a car with a BFT in for warranty work is an idiot.

        Anybody who thinks a nationwide (or wider) campaign to collect usage data is an attempt to "coerce and trick" owners is a paranoiac.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Feel free to take your car in with a big turbo and see how it goes for yourself.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by phyrexia Click here to enlarge
        Anybody who thinks a nationwide (or wider) campaign to collect usage data is an attempt to "coerce and trick" owners is a paranoiac.
        Right... that's why they included a bribe. For no reason because they love passing out money.
      1. phyrexia's Avatar
        phyrexia -
        That there is even an offer of payment in some scenarios is further proof that there's no coercion or trickery involved.

        JFC. Do you think somebody with enough aftermarket parts to worry about their warranty is also going to be swayed by $75?

        For that matter, one of your own screenshots says they're going to be charging for this service of upgrading the infotainment (which is really a legitimate security measure) eventually. Again, anybody with enough aftermarket mods to worry is going to either ignore it or have a nice long talk with their SA before doing it. Or just get the files and do it themselves.
      1. phyrexia's Avatar
        phyrexia -
        I know you're a mod or this is your forum or something to that effect, but the whole connotation of this article and thread is ridiculous. There are so few wildly modified cars whose owners are also trying to get warranty work, it's not something VAG or any other manufacturer is going to address like this.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by phyrexia Click here to enlarge
        I know you're a mod or this is your forum or something to that effect, but the whole connotation of this article and thread is ridiculous. There are so few wildly modified cars whose owners are also trying to get warranty work, it's not something VAG or any other manufacturer is going to address like this.
        Well then you can probably explain why it was someone who got flagged in the system after going in that made me aware of this?
      1. phyrexia's Avatar
        phyrexia -
        Sounds like they fall under "idiot".

        I'm good friends with a long standing
        Audi SA. She thinks you're silly.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Well then you can probably explain why it was someone who got flagged in the system after going in that made me aware of this?