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      A 7:35.90 Nurburgring laptime test in independent driver hands is simply excellent for a four door sedan. No, this does not set a new production four-door record as it is slightly over ten seconds off the time Mercedes-AMG was able to set with their GT 63 S 4-Door Coupe.


      The Mercedes-AMG time was a factory effort with the goal of setting the laptime. Sport Auto turning a 7:35.90 in an M5 Competition without factory support (or software tuning games) certainly is realistic and impressive.

      They actually topped what Sport Auto managed to get for the M4 GTS:

      20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:38 Ferrari 458 Italia Horst von Saurma 2010 Sport Auto (08/2010), Michelin Pilot Sport PS2.[143]
      20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:33 Pagani Zonda F Horst von Saurma 2006 Sport Auto (05/2006), Michelin Pilot Sport 2 N0/1.[144]
      20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:33 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997.2) Horst von Saurma 2010 Sport Auto (05/2010), PCCB [145]
      20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:33 Porsche 911 GT3 (997) Horst von Saurma 2007 Sport Auto (11/2007), Michelin Pilot Sport Cup.[146]
      20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:33.55 Koenigsegg CCX Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test[147]
      20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:34 Koenigsegg CCR Horst von Saurma 17 October 2005 Sport Auto (03/2006), Michelin Pilot Sport N0.[148]

      7:34 Porsche 911 GT2 (997)
      September 2008 Porsche conducted test, stock vehicle.[149]
      20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:34 Nissan GT-R (2011) Horst von Saurma October 2010 Sport Auto (11/2010),.[150]
      20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:34 Lexus LFA Nürburgring Package Horst von Saurma February 2012 Sport Auto (02/2012), Potenza RE070.[151]
      20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:34 Porsche 911 Turbo S (991) Horst von Saurma February 2014 Sport Auto (2/2014), Dunlop SportMaxx Race.[152]
      20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:34 Porsche 911 Carrera S (991.2) Christian Gebhardt May 2016 Sport Auto (6/2016), Pirelli P Zero N1.[153][154]

      7:35 Mercedes-AMG GT S
      2016 Autoweek [155] and Fastest Laps [156]
      20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:35 Ruf Rt 12 Horst von Saurma 2008 Sport Auto (02/2008), Michelin Pilot Sport Cup.[157][158]
      20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:35 McLaren 650S Spider Horst von Saurma 2015 Sport Auto (03/2015), Pirelli P Zero Corsa.[159]
      20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:36 Nissan GT-R (R35) Horst von Saurma 2011 Sport Auto (05/2011), Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT 600 DSST.[160]
      20,600 m (67,600 ft) 7:37 BMW M4 GTS Christian Gebhardt October 2016 Sport Auto (09/2016), Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2.[161]

      The Competition model is also 3-seconds faster in Sport Auto's hands than the standard F90 M5.


      This article was originally published in forum thread: BMW F90 M5 Competition Nurburgring laptime test by Sport Auto - 7:35.90 started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 13 Comments
      1. SpeedLimit?'s Avatar
        SpeedLimit? -
        Who would've thought that one day amg would make better track cars while M produced higher displacement hot rods.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SpeedLimit? Click here to enlarge
        Who would've thought that one day amg would make better track cars while M produced higher displacement hot rods.
        The cars are still good but M lost its identity. You would think they could at least give us a real track car.
      1. hovabongz's Avatar
        hovabongz -
        So you guys want to compare a factory driver lap time on semi slicks to a time set by a magazine? On the same day on Autobild on the same tyres the M5 Com was faster than the GT63S. I don’t get how people still take Nurburgring times seriously especially those set by a test driver.
      1. Eleventeen's Avatar
        Eleventeen -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        The cars are still good but M lost its identity. You would think they could at least give us a real track car.
        https://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/...ctory-race-car
      1. Payam@BMS's Avatar
        Payam@BMS -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by hovabongz Click here to enlarge
        So you guys want to compare a factory driver lap time on semi slicks to a time set by a magazine? On the same day on Autobild on the same tyres the M5 Com was faster than the GT63S. I don’t get how people still take Nurburgring times seriously especially those set by a test driver.
        Agreed, too many variables in that circuit. Especially when it's never the same driver, day, temperature, etc. I don't take these lap times seriously.
      1. MSIZZLE's Avatar
        MSIZZLE -
        guys you can't say its worthless, its atleast a guide. Its not the same driver but on the most part all professional drivers, so lets say making EVERYTHING ideal what does the M5 have in it? Another 10-15 seconds tops??
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Payam@BMS Click here to enlarge
        Agreed, too many variables in that circuit. Especially when it's never the same driver, day, temperature, etc. I don't take these lap times seriously.
        Who holds the record?
      1. Payam@BMS's Avatar
        Payam@BMS -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
        Who holds the record?
        What do you mean?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by hovabongz Click here to enlarge
        So you guys want to compare a factory driver lap time on semi slicks to a time set by a magazine? On the same day on Autobild on the same tyres the M5 Com was faster than the GT63S. I don’t get how people still take Nurburgring times seriously especially those set by a test driver.
        I don't really understand your objection. This network pointed out the Nurburgring is BS long ago: https://www.boostaddict.com/content.php?7419-The-Nurburgring-is-bull$

        That doesn't invalidate Sport Auto times though.

        It's not like it's their fault AMG went to set a record.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Not the same thing as having a GT3 or GT350R or ZR1 you can walk into a dealer and pick up.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Payam@BMS Click here to enlarge
        What do you mean?
        Just pointing out AMG does. Manufacturers no doubt screw with their own internal testing but if M could easily one-up them and take it, they would.

        This is a great independent lap time for the F90 M5 IMO.
      1. hovabongz's Avatar
        hovabongz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I don't really understand your objection. This network pointed out the Nurburgring is BS long ago: https://www.boostaddict.com/content.php?7419-The-Nurburgring-is-bull$

        That doesn't invalidate Sport Auto times though.

        It's not like it's their fault AMG went to set a record.
        No it certainly doesn’t invalidate the SA time and I’d argue that it’s more realistic, however you mentioned that the time is nearly 10 sec off the AMG.I was just pointing out that you can’t compare the two lap times as one was done on semi slicks with an AMG factory driver to break a record,totally incomparable to the SA time at the very least you should have mentioned that as those give the AMG big advantages.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by hovabongz Click here to enlarge
        very least you should have mentioned that as those give the AMG big advantages.
        How is it not mentioned when the title says Sport Auto and in the body I state the AMG time is a factory effort? I actually did what you said I should have done...