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    • Porsche 718 Cayman vs. 2020 MKV Toyota Supra vs. BMW F87 M2 Competition - Which is the best?

      This comparison is somewhat amusing as when you really think about it BMW has two entries. Say what you want the Supra is just a Z4 Coupe under the skin. Additionally, MotorTrend called this a 'Sports Car' shootout and is the BMW F87 M2 Competition really a sports car?


      It's a hell of a sports coupe even at its porky 3613 pounds. The 718 Cayman is almost 500 pounds lighter.

      What about the Supra? It comes in at 3363 pounds. Getting rid of the rear seats did not provide much weight savings over the MKIV Supra and its iron block I6. The Supra's weight distribution is hardly BMW 50/50 either with 52% of its weight on the nose. Even BMW can not do BMW 50/50 weight distribution these days as the M2 Competition has 53% of its weight up front.

      Really, the M2 Competition makes the better Supra successor. It features a powerhouse of a motor in the form of the S55 with an aftermarket already producing quadruple figure output examples. It also has rear seats and a manual transmission option. You know, like a Supra is supposed to have.

      The 718 Cayman is the true sports car of the trio and even in base trim its 300 horsepower 2.0 liter four-cylinder is not far off the Supra or M2. Yes, it is the slowest but not by much.

      All of the performance figures are close:

      • Zero to 60 mph: 3.9, 4.0, 4.1 secondsSupra, M2, Cayman.
      • Quarter mile: 12.4 seconds at 114.7 mph, 12.5 seconds at 111.2 mph, 12.6 seconds at 110.3 mphM2, Supra, Cayman.
      • Skidpad: 1.01 g, 1.01 g, 1.03 gSupra, M2, Cayman.
      • Figure eight: 24.0 seconds at 0.83 g, 24.0 second at 0.81 g, 24.1 seconds at 0.82 gSupra, Cayman, M2.

      If you want the muscle car of the group with tons of aftermarket potential (like a Supra is expected to have) you get the M2 Competition. If you want the pure sports car, you get the 718.

      If you want a confused car that doesn't know what it is supposed to be and is a BMW in a Toyota body, you get the Supra. Which is why MotorTrend chose it as the winner in this comparison. They're confused too.

      POWERTRAIN/CHASSIS 2019 BMW M2 Competition 2018 Porsche 718 Cayman 2020 Toyota GR Supra (Launch Edition)
      DRIVETRAIN LAYOUT Front-engine, RWD Mid-engine, RWD Front-engine, RWD
      ENGINE TYPE Turbocharged I-6, alum block/head Turbocharged flat-4, alum block/heads Turbocharged I-6, alum block/head
      VALVETRAIN DOHC, 4 valves/cyl DOHC, 4 valves/cyl DOHC, 4 valves/cyl
      DISPLACEMENT 181.8 cu in/2,979cc 121.9 cu-in/1,988cc 182.9 cu in/2,998cc
      COMPRESSION RATIO 10.2:1 9.5:1 11.0:1
      POWER (SAE NET) 405 hp @ 5,230 rpm 300 hp @ 6,500 rpm 335 hp @ 5,000 rpm
      TORQUE (SAE NET) 406 hp @ 2,350 rpm 280 lb-ft @ 1,950 rpm 365 lb-ft @ 1,600 rpm
      REDLINE 7,500 rpm 7,400 rpm 6,500 rpm
      WEIGHT TO POWER 8.9 lb/hp 10.4 lb/hp 10.0 lb/hp
      TRANSMISSION 7-speed twin-clutch auto 7-speed twin-clutch auto 8-speed automatic
      AXLE/FINAL DRIVE RATIO 3.46:1/2.31:1 3.62:1/2.24:1 3.15:1/2.02:1
      SUSPENSION, FRONT; REAR Struts, coil springs, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, anti-roll bar Struts, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar; struts, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar Struts, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar
      STEERING RATIO 15.0:1 12.5-15.0:1 15.0:1
      TURNS LOCK TO LOCK 2.3 2.5 2.0
      BRAKES, F; R 15.7-in vented, drilled, 2-pc disc; 15.0-in vented, drilled, 2-pc disc, ABS 13.0-in vented, drilled disc; 12.8-in vented, drilled disc, ABS 13.7-in vented disc; 13.6-in vented disc, ABS
      WHEELS, F; R 9.0 x 19-in; 10.0 x 19-in, forged aluminum 8.0 x 20-in; 9.5 x 20-in, forged aluminum 9.0 x 19-in; 10.0 x 19-in, forged aluminum
      TIRES, F; R 245/35R19 93Y; 265/35R19 98Y Michelin Pilot Super Sport 235/35R20 92Y; 265/35R20 99Y Michelin Pilot Sport 4S NO 255/35R19 96Y; 275/35R19 100Y Michelin Pilot Super Sport
      DIMENSIONS
      WHEELBASE 106.0 in 97.4 in 97.2 in
      TRACK, F/R 62.2/63.0 in 59.6/60.3 in 62.8/62.6 in
      LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT 176.2 x 73.0 x 55.5 in 172.4 x 70.9 x 50.6 in 172.5 x 73.0 x 50.9 in
      TURNING CIRCLE 38.4 ft 36.0 ft 34.1 ft
      CURB WEIGHT 3,613 lb 3,128 lb 3,363 lb
      WEIGHT DIST, F/R 53/47% 43/57% 52/48%
      SEATING CAPACITY 4 2 2
      HEADROOM, F/R 40.1/36.5 in 39.1/ in 38.3/ in
      LEGROOM, F/R 41.5/33.0 in 42.2/ in 42.2/ in
      SHOULDER ROOM, F/R 54.4/53.3 in 51.3/ in 54.4/ in
      CARGO VOLUME 13.8 cu ft 5.3 (front), 9.7 (rear) cu ft 10.2 cu ft
      TEST DATA
      ACCELERATION TO MPH
      0-30 1.8 sec 1.4 sec 1.6 sec
      0-40 2.4 2.2 2.2
      0-50 3.1 3.0 3.0
      0-60 4.0 4.1 3.9
      0-70 5.1 5.3 5.1
      0-80 6.4 6.7 6.4
      0-90 7.8 8.3 8.0
      0-100 9.5 10.3 9.9
      0-100-0 13.5 14.0 13.8
      PASSING, 45-65 MPH 1.8 2.0 1.9
      QUARTER MILE 12.4 sec @ 114.7 mph 12.6 sec @ 110.3 mph 12.5 sec @ 111.2 mph
      BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 106 ft 97 ft 99 ft
      LATERAL ACCELERATION 1.01 g (avg) 1.03 g (avg) 1.01 g (avg)
      MT FIGURE EIGHT 24.1 sec @ 0.82 g (avg) 24.0 sec @ 0.81 g (avg) 24.0 sec @ 0.83 g (avg)
      TOP-GEAR REVS @ 60 MPH 1,700 rpm 1,600 rpm 1,500 rpm
      CONSUMER INFO
      BASE PRICE $59,895 $58,150 $56,180
      PRICE AS TESTED $67,045 $71,850 $57,375
      STABILITY/TRACTION CONTROL Yes/Yes Yes/Yes Yes/Yes
      AIRBAGS 8: Dual front, front side, f/r curtain, front knee 8: Dual front, side, head, knee 8: Dual front, side, curtain, knee
      BASIC WARRANTY 4 years/50,000 miles 4 years/50,000 miles 3 years/36,000 miles
      POWERTRAIN WARRANTY 4 years/50,000 miles 4 years/50,000 miles 5 years/60,000 miles
      ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE 4y ears/Unlimited miles 4 years/50,000 miles 2 years/25,000 miles
      FUEL CAPACITY 13.7 gal 16.9 gal 13.7 gal
      EPA CITY/HWY/COMB ECON 17/23/19 mpg 22/29/25 mpg 24/31/26 mpg
      ENERGY CONS, CITY/HWY 198/147 kW-hr/100 miles 153/116 kW-hr/100 miles 140/109 kW-hr/100 miles
      CO2 EMISSIONS, COMB 1.01 lb/mile 0.79 lb/mile 0.73 lb/mile
      RECOMMENDED FUEL Unleaded premium Unleaded premium Unleaded premium

      This article was originally published in forum thread: Porsche 718 Cayman vs. 2020 MKV Toyota Supra vs. BMW F87 M2 Competition - Which is the best? started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 5 Comments
      1. axthomson's Avatar
        axthomson -
        And to top it off, its a Base Cayman. Probably on the price point it makes a difference though.
      1. psipwrd's Avatar
        psipwrd -
        I think i'd choose the Supra too...best value and will have tons of support
        AND good gas mileage!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by psipwrd Click here to enlarge
        I think i'd choose the Supra too...best value and will have tons of support
        AND good gas mileage!
        It's not much of a value just look at the base prices and the EPA ratings don't mean much in the real world. Plus it has a tiny tank.
      1. psipwrd's Avatar
        psipwrd -
        It's all about perspective...I used to DD my GT350 lol
        And I thought I read somewhere the base was 51k, but I could be mistaken.
      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by psipwrd Click here to enlarge
        It's all about perspective...I used to DD my GT350 lol
        And I thought I read somewhere the base was 51k, but I could be mistaken.
        "Supra is Back with Starting MSRP of $49,990. initial 1,500 production Supras for the U.S. will be Launch Edition models starting at $55,250"