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    MotorTrend states the F10 M5 may be automatic only? DCT abandoned?

    All this time we were under the impression the F10 M5 would be getting a DCT gearbox. BMW apparently tried to get the M DCT supplied by Getrag to work but stronger actuators were necessary which slowed down the response time. Motortrend is now stating the car will be auto only. Uh, BMW, this is an M car, not M SUV. We understand why the X5 M and X6 M have autos, but the M5? No manual option? What the hell is going on?

    What does not make sense to us is that Getrag has higher torque capacity dual clutch transmissions, such as the unit in the Ferrari California. This unit is capable of 553 pound-feet, so why not use it? Nissan's GR6 by Borg Warner can handle 650 pound-feet, this is also a good option. There are dual clutches up to the task, we do not understand why BMW is settling for an 8 speed automatic that likely will not even be that strong.

    Additionally, if they intend to use an automatic a manual option should go without saying. Cadillac manages to do this on their high torque CTS-V, BMW should not have to be told as they have a manual available up to the task. We have entered the BMW twilight zone.

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    I dont understand what has happened to BMW. Its really sad.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
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    I dont understand what has happened to BMW. Its really sad.
    How does it keep on getting worse?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    How does it keep on getting worse?
    What?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
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    What?
    BMW.. how do their decisions keep spiraling downward, I don't understand.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    BMW.. how do their decisions keep spiraling downward, I don't understand.
    It seems that they are putting sportiness and heritage on the back burner and more focused on Electric cars, Hybrid cars and MPG.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
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    I dont understand what has happened to BMW. Its really sad.
    This all started after production stopped on the e36.







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    Wow this is surprising. If they use autos you are right about the need for manual option especially since they offer the 550i in manual.

    DCTs are awesome, and the M5 would be much more lively with one!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alq80 Click here to enlarge
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    If they use autos you are right about the need for manual option especially since they offer the 550i in manual.
    Exactly, what a slap in the face that would be.

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    DCTs are awesome, and the M5 would be much more lively with one!
    I never thought I would see the day an M car would come in auto only. They can do a manual, they better.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    BMW.. how do their decisions keep spiraling downward, I don't understand.
    They must have a woman in charge... Click here to enlarge

    Get the authentic M cars while you can...cause soon, it'll be low revving with autos and turbos...

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    great... i hope these rumors r false... or major EPIC FAIL

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    i think its just rumors...
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    Then put back an updated smg!I for one love the rawness of it

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    this is sad and pathetic. i better get my e46 m3 before somebody tries to make it an automatic.


    bmw being the ultimate driving machine= FAIL.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
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    Then put back an updated smg!I for one love the rawness of it
    Same here, an SMG makes more sense than this auto junk.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
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    i think its just rumors...
    If Motortrend gets this wrong I lose major respect for them. You can't report something like this as definitive as with their title, "Why the 2012 BMW M5 is M’s First Automatic-Only Car" only for it to turn out to be false.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
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    I dont understand what has happened to BMW. Its really sad.
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    How does it keep on getting worse?
    Seriously, what the hell is going on? Who the $#@! is making these insane decisions as of late, because I would like to give them swift kick to the nuts? Honestly, is all this just a bad dream?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
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    Seriously, what the hell is going on? Who the $#@! is making these insane decisions as of late, because I would like to give them swift kick to the nuts? Honestly, is all this just a bad dream?
    for us.. it's a nightmare bro

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    i don't buy these rumors. Look at spy videos , those shifting are too fast to be automatic
    check out 0:28

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
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    i think its just rumors...
    I have my fingers are crossed.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
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    i don't buy these rumors. Look at spy videos , those shifting are too fast to be automatic
    you may be onto something...

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    Its not the first time 'car magazines' put out false $#@! just to sell. Its like the tabloids for men.
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    Why are you guys so surprised.....

    When they released the E60 M5 it was initially only available with automatic. BMW eventually caved, but didn't the overall performance figures suffer a bit with the manual? I for one like auto now (old and lazy), but I certainly agree that ALL M cars should be designed and engineered around the three pedal set up!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Worth the wait Click here to enlarge
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    Why are you guys so surprised.....

    When they released the E60 M5 it was initially only available with automatic. BMW eventually caved, but didn't the overall performance figures suffer a bit with the manual? I for one like auto now (old and lazy), but I certainly agree that ALL M cars should be designed and engineered around the three pedal set up!
    I don't think you read the entire post.

    No traditional manual, no dual clutch transmission, no sequential transmission.

    MotorTrend is claiming it will get a slushbox automatic only. The E60 M5 had the smg sequential gearbox.

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    BMW is def. F@#!ing things up with there M division. The M-division is there pride and joy. So they should understand this is the consumers pride and joy too. You know the ones who buy the car and drive the car. The same people that make up the funds for the retarded engineers paychex. Just my $.02

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