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    VTT Unoffical N54 MT 1/4 record

    Took the car to the strip yesterday, after a few shake downs, launched the car at 4700, and was able to cut a 1.67 60ft, car was moving, but unfortunately lost the belt at the top of the run, and the car though pointed straight decided to make a hard left(loss of power steering is my guess), almost collided with the Chevelle we were running. We manged to avoid the wreck, but since we crossed center they did not count our final ET, or trap. As you can see from the slip the chevelle ran a 10.81 despite having to brake hard to avoid us. We were 2/10th's faster the entire way down the track, including the 1000 ft mark, would have reeled of a 10.6 or better, but it wasn't meant to be. We will be heading back to the track very soon to get the slip to back this up..Click here to enlarge

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    Nice save!
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    Holy crap that was 4th gear well above 100mph when it pulled left. Glad you are okay and you were able to save it.

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    It was past the 1000 ft mark, my previous shake downs I was running 135 consistently, so it had to be around there, as this was more boost. The owner of the chevelle happened to be parked right in front of his too, he was ready to fight. I went over, apolgized, and explained what happened. He was cool about it. Both of us pucker factor 10.
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    Man that is scary!! Glad you got the car out of the lane. That was moving man.
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    For comparisons sake, here is the DCT M4 running a 10.5, we are about a 10th behind him the whole way, and this car pulls hard up top. A similar ET/Trap would have been expected... Can't wait to get it back to the track! Click here to enlarge
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    Nice save Tony! Btw, hello everyone. Terry, Payam, Tony. I've missed this group.

    Just figured I'd pop in and see what I've been missing. Thinking about picking up a race car again. Is this a stage 2+ car with the shotgun barrel VTT fuel upgrade?
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    Yo! Welcome back! This is a Built motor, GC, shotgun car. Its running mostly DI, with a little PI sprinkled on top
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    N54 Stock Frame (100% E85) World Record: 699WHP / 714WTQ
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Tony@VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Yo! Welcome back! This is a Built motor, GC, shotgun car. Its running mostly DI, with a little PI sprinkled on top
    Thanks! Sweet build, who built the motor? I was checking out the GC turbos on your website. Searching the forums now for spool on a 6AT running them, although I'm thinking next car will be a manual.
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    We have a local shop building our motors now. No one else seems to be able to get it right. As for spool, nothing can touch these. Were making 600WTQ by 3000RPM
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Tony@VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    We have a local shop building our motors now. No one else seems to be able to get it right. As for spool, nothing can touch these. Were making 600WTQ by 3000RPM
    That's nuts. I'll have to start a parts/price list and see the cost to build a 10 second N54 vs some other platforms. Thinking about an S85 build, if not N54 or I'll go domestic.
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    Just put pistons / rods, head studs, and a set of GC's in an AT N54 with the new tranny flashing coming together, you should be easily mid 10's. Also don't bother with the 8.8 rear or any of that. I'm running a stock m3 set up with a wavetrac, stock M3 axles. I'm doing 4700 clutch drops with 850WHP/725WTQ, 3700lb car. It shook it right off. I'm not saying if you try to 1000WHP to it, a stock AT, or M3 rear will hold. At that point, a 4L80, and 8.8" are prob the way to go, but that's an area no one has gotten yet. You can get mid 10's for under 10-12K, and it should be reliable.
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    N54 1/2Mile World Record: 172.94MPH
    N55 World Record: 11.7ET / 122.7MPH (MT)
    N54 Stock Frame (100% E85) World Record: 699WHP / 714WTQ
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    Didn't 101Duck run 10.2 a while back?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Josh@RSE Click here to enlarge
    Didn't 101Duck run 10.2 a while back?
    Yeah sure I guess, with a 2 speed slush box. Were talking about the MT record. I mean if someone with an actual fast N54 threw a powerglide in it, they should be running mid to low 9's. Its quite a different thing to launch the car with no boost, and shift it yourself. That were on par with 750WHP DCT cars with a manual says a lot about how fast the car is.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Tony@VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Yeah sure I guess, with a 2 speed slush box. Were talking about the MT record. I mean if someone with an actual fast N54 threw a powerglide in it, they should be running mid to low 9's. Its quite a different thing to launch the car with no boost, and shift it yourself. That were on par with 750WHP DCT cars with a manual says a lot about how fast the car is.
    Oh I didn't notice the MT part. Good save either way.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Tony@VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Just put pistons / rods, head studs, and a set of GC's in an AT N54 with the new tranny flashing coming together, you should be easily mid 10's. Also don't bother with the 8.8 rear or any of that. I'm running a stock m3 set up with a wavetrac, stock M3 axles. I'm doing 4700 clutch drops with 850WHP/725WTQ, 3700lb car. It shook it right off. I'm not saying if you try to 1000WHP to it, a stock AT, or M3 rear will hold. At that point, a 4L80, and 8.8" are prob the way to go, but that's an area no one has gotten yet. You can get mid 10's for under 10-12K, and it should be reliable.
    Stock trans are holding big power now with just a flash? That's pretty sweet. Maybe I'll get back in the N54 game lol
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    Good save man car is hauling ass

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    Stock trans are holding big power now with just a flash? That's pretty sweet. Maybe I'll get back in the N54 game lol
    I wouldn't say big power but enough to get you in the 10's with a decent launch
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    Nice run and good driving! Hope next trip you can have no issues and get the record.
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    Did any of the belt make it into the crankcase? Time for a front main seal replacement?

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    Any signs of contact between the PS pulley and the subframe? Might be worth looking into.
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    That's not it. Its not even close, and the car has a metal pulley on it. I will investigate why it threw it when I get it on the lift.
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    WoahClick here to enlarge Crazy close call there for both parties!!

    Regarding the ET it seems that you likely became "the Chevelle" by adopting its pass through the backend, meaning it's not a certainty that the Chevelle actually still ran the 10.81. IMHO it's not totally a bad thing as your Reaction times were very similar so you probably were in the 10.8x range which is a very strong pass especially for a MT car. Any more slips of the same day? Something like this is a very skewed scenario, so the other slips would be likely provide a better concept of where you'd be if you caught a similar 60'.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Rob@RBTurbo Click here to enlarge
    WoahClick here to enlarge Crazy close call there for both parties!!

    Regarding the ET it seems that you likely became "the Chevelle" by adopting its pass through the backend, meaning it's not a certainty that the Chevelle actually still ran the 10.81. IMHO it's not totally a bad thing as your Reaction times were very similar so you probably were in the 10.8x range which is a very strong pass especially for a MT car. Any more slips of the same day? Something like this is a very skewed scenario, so the other slips would be likely provide a better concept of where you'd be if you caught a similar 60'.

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    Yes I might have pulled his ET, but it would have been measured off his RT of breaking the starting beam which was slower than mine. I also lifted as soon as it started going left, which was well before the finish beam, a good 190-200 feet at least, as you can see I clearly cross right after the 1000 ft beam, and re enter my lane after the finish. So if i did take his ET, it means it was skewed by the wrong RT on the starting beam, and close to 200 feet of no throttle, which is why my trap is a good 10-12MPH lower than the other runs. So using your logic of that is my ET. I ran a 10.81 (which is still a platform MT record beating Shiv's 10.83) after coasting for 200 feet. This backs up my claim of an easy 10.6 pass, prob closer to a 10.5. As for other runs. I ran a 11.4 @134 my last pass with a super soft launch, less boost, less timing and it was a full 7/10ths off my 1000 ft mark for the next pass. No one knows what we really would have run, but the car has a 10.5 in it no problem with even the same launch, and no shenanigans on the top end. I plan to go back soon, and get the slip to prove it. There is not an MT car on this platform, or the S55 platform that is close to doing what this is car is doing right now. I don't even pull the floor mats out. If the car weighed what Terry's does it would be knocking on the 9's shifting it myself...Click here to enlarge
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    Hmmm. His reaction time was slower which we can all see (and as you stated) meaning "your" pass should deduct a bit if you want to pretend the car was still in your lane base anything off of his (YOUR) ET, because his clock started LATER (thus making the ET a bit more optimistic). In short you got the jump (a better RT) and then finished his pass, but the timing equipment doesn't understand this obviously and gave him the ET (from you who left sooner than he, but in his lane at the end). Anyway it is very skewed here, thus, any other slips? We can tell a lot by a slip even if the 60' isn't too great.

    NOTE: This is barr'ing the belt shred, of course, we all know that didnt help; but once again other slips without the shred, or driving in the wrong lanes for that matter, could help this bench racing session out a smidgin.

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