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    First mention of a Macan 'ring time

    Nothing yet as to whether the noted time can be validated as official, but if it is correct, 8:15 is a pretty impressive time for an SUV!

    http://fortyonesix.com/news/1863/roa...-porsche-macan

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    Unconfirmed: Porsche Macan Turbo sets the fastest production SUV Nurburgring lap record with an 8 minute and 15 second lap

    This is an unconfirmed report that has yet to be acknowledged by official Porsche sources but the Macan has apparently set the fastest laptime for a production SUV around the Nurburgring at 8 minutes and 15 seconds. This was done in the hands of legendary driver Walter Rohrhl who probably has lapped the ring with more Porsche vehicles than anyone in history. This is reportedly a preliminary and unofficial laptime that can be improved.

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    So just how quick is an 8 minute and 15 second 'ring time? The 957 generation Cayenne GTS managed an 8:50. 8 minutes and 33 seconds for the Cayenne Turbo. What about the Jeep Cherokee SRT8? 8 minutes and 49 seconds. The only SUV that lapped any quicker is BMW's one off stripped out E53 X5 V12 Le Mans that had 700 horsepower and was built specifically to tackle the Nurburgring. It used the same motor as the McLaren F1 and BMW LM race car to put that time in perspective.

    The Macan Turbo is an incredible achievement and hands down the king of the performance SUV crop as far as all around ability is concerned.

    8:04 Audi R8 V8 Sport Auto (07/2007)
    8:04 Alfa Romeo 4C topspeed.com (09/2013)
    8:04 Porsche Cayman S Walter Röhrl Sport Auto, 19 inch wheels, ceramic brakes.
    8:05 BMW M3 E92 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/2007)
    8:06 Subaru WRX STi Spec-C (2004) Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring Video 'NISMO Beast Unleashed'
    8:07 BMW Z8 E52 Autobild (06/2001)
    8:07.97 Renault Megane RS Trophy Laurent Hurgon June 17, 2011 www.europeancarnews.com (06/2011), new record for a FWD car.
    8:09 Audi RS4 Sport Auto (06/2006)
    8:09 BMW M6 E63 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/2005), Sport tires, 259 km/h speed limiter.
    8:09 Honda NSX-R Sport Auto (08/2002), Sport tires, suspension modification.
    8:10 Porsche Boxster S www.sueddeutsche.de/automobil/372/449102/text/11
    8:10 Dodge Viper GTS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (10/1997)
    8:10 BMW Alpina B6 S Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (05/2008)
    8:11.16 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX Takayuki Kinoshita (Best Motoring video 14) Wet conditions, not a true time attack.
    8:12 BMW Z4 M Coupe EVO magazine (Issue 093, page 077)
    8:13 BMW M5 E60 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/2004)
    8:13 Ferrari 355 GTB Sport Auto (10/1994)
    8:13 Mercedes-Benz_C63 AMG Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (2/2009)
    8:14 BMW Alpina B3 Biturbo Coupé Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/2008),including optional LSD and 19 inch wheels.
    8:15 BMW 1 Series M Coupe June 2011 Sport Auto,
    8:16.15 Honda NSX (NA1) Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring Video Special Vol. 15 "The Honda NSX" (1990), video confirmed
    8:16.90 Renault Mégane RS R26.R Vincent Baylé 23 June 2008 Previous FWD record
    8:16 Porsche Cayman S Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/2009?)
    8:17 Porsche Boxster S Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/2009?)
    8:18 Lexus IS-F fastestlaps.com (2007)



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    What was the X5 M lap time?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by emil Click here to enlarge
    What was the X5 M lap time?
    X6M did it in 8:24.

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    Wow. I wonder what a current-gen Cayenne Turbo S would do it in. I have to imagine it would be close, much more power. Either way, this is cool. I really love these things, little point-and-shoot daily drivers that also manage to be useful. Would be a great DD. Porsche once again showing why they're still on top.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leveraged sellout Click here to enlarge
    Wow. I wonder what a current-gen Cayenne Turbo S would do it in. I have to imagine it would be close, much more power. Either way, this is cool. I really love these things, little point-and-shoot daily drivers that also manage to be useful. Would be a great DD. Porsche once again showing why they're still on top.
    Aside from the big difference in weight, I imagine the PDK helped the Macan a lot. I spent most of yesterday driving a Techart Magnum Cayenne Turbo with the 8 speed automatic and I was consistently disappointed in how slow that transmission is. I don't know if the Techart tuning had anything to do with it but its shifts felt even more sluggish than the 6 speed auto in the E90 generation BMWs and way slower than the ZF 8 speed in new BMWs no matter what mode you put the Cayenne in (normal D, manual, sport button on, etc.) It seriously takes 1/4-1/2 second to shift gears which really adds up over a 13 mile lap.

    8:15 is insanely quick for any SUV, I'm really impressed.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Remonster Click here to enlarge
    Aside from the big difference in weight, I imagine the PDK helped the Macan a lot. I spent most of yesterday driving a Techart Magnum Cayenne Turbo with the 8 speed automatic and I was consistently disappointed in how slow that transmission is. I don't know if the Techart tuning had anything to do with it but its shifts felt even more sluggish than the 6 speed auto in the E90 generation BMWs and way slower than the ZF 8 speed in new BMWs no matter what mode you put the Cayenne in (normal D, manual, sport button on, etc.) It seriously takes 1/4-1/2 second to shift gears which really adds up over a 13 mile lap.

    8:15 is insanely quick for any SUV, I'm really impressed.
    Really...that's very interesting. I haven't been in a current gen Cayenne yet so that's good to know. Is it the same ZF box or is something they designed? Crazy that it's so slow. If that's the case then I can definitely see the PDK being a factor. I remember when 8:15 was fast for a car....and that wasn't that long ago. There's plenty of cars with way more power that are no faster. Very impressive indeed.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leveraged sellout Click here to enlarge
    Really...that's very interesting. I haven't been in a current gen Cayenne yet so that's good to know. Is it the same ZF box or is something they designed? Crazy that it's so slow. If that's the case then I can definitely see the PDK being a factor. I remember when 8:15 was fast for a car....and that wasn't that long ago. There's plenty of cars with way more power that are no faster. Very impressive indeed.
    I really do think there was something wrong with the car I drove, I've only been in one other current-gen Cayenne (V6 hybrid) and I'm trying to remember if the shifts were any quicker. In any case, I still think PDK was a big factor in this lap time.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Remonster Click here to enlarge
    I really do think there was something wrong with the car I drove, I've only been in one other current-gen Cayenne (V6 hybrid) and I'm trying to remember if the shifts were any quicker. In any case, I still think PDK was a big factor in this lap time.
    I don't know to the extent that the TCU for that transmission learns, but I that could be one factor...if someone regularly drove it like a 4 cylinder Camry on Sunday church runs, it might be very reluctant to shift quickly. I know that at least MB cars tend to fall into this trap quite a bit.

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