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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    That's exactly what it was and what they did wasn't even that impressive.
    Well, I'll take your word on that as I dont know much about the car in and of itself but we can at least give their marketing team some credit. The average person sees the car and thinks supercar or dream car. Now the brand Lexus can be in the same dialogue as some of the other well known supercar brands. From that perspective Lexus succeeded.

    As for the topic vehicle, it seems a lot of these manufacturers are gunning for the market thats been dominated by the M5 and mid sized AMGs. Not sure if any have been succesful. How have M5 sales been trending over the last 5 years compared to the previous 5 or 10 I guess would answer that question.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by R.G. Click here to enlarge
    Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Lexus actually LOSE money on every LFA they sold? I believe it was just a look at we can do exercise.
    Yes, they did LOSE money on it, and? It was exactly to show what they can do, you are right, that's why they badged it Lexus, they weren't trying to start a new line of supercars, just show what they can do and what F sport is all about. I'm not saying you should love or hate what F sport is, but there is much unfair judgement passed on the car all the time form people who have never even seen one in person, after all there are only 500.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BlackJetE90OC Click here to enlarge
    It sounds good, that is about it. For the price its performance measures are nothing to write home about.
    Come on now...if you are gong to judge a car based off of straight line speed then everyone should just buy a Mustang, Corvette, or GTR, depending on price point and all other cars just shouldn't exist including M3. The car was underrated from the factory and is amazing to drive, end of story. It sounds amazing, and it's a car you can literally drive off the showroom floor and track it for an 8 hour session and then drive it home. There are not many OEM cars that can do that, especially not do it while being one of the top 5 or 6 fastest cars around a track ever made.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    Yes, they did LOSE money on it, and? It was exactly to show what they can do, you are right, that's why they badged it Lexus, they weren't trying to start a new line of supercars, just show what they can do and what F sport is all about. I'm not saying you should love or hate what F sport is, but there is much unfair judgement passed on the car all the time form people who have never even seen one in person, after all there are only 500.
    I apologize for quoting you in that response. Response was geared more towards the sales figures and equating the success of the car based on those figures.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by R.G. Click here to enlarge
    Well, I'll take your word on that as I dont know much about the car in and of itself but we can at least give their marketing team some credit. The average person sees the car and thinks supercar or dream car. Now the brand Lexus can be in the same dialogue as some of the other well known supercar brands. From that perspective Lexus succeeded.

    As for the topic vehicle, it seems a lot of these manufacturers are gunning for the market thats been dominated by the M5 and mid sized AMGs. Not sure if any have been succesful. How have M5 sales been trending over the last 5 years compared to the previous 5 or 10 I guess would answer that question.
    It definitely has a halo effect for the brand and as you stated the average person won't know the difference. How many of us respect the average person's opinion on cars though?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    Come on now...if you are gong to judge a car based off of straight line speed then everyone should just buy a Mustang, Corvette, or GTR, depending on price point and all other cars just shouldn't exist including M3. The car was underrated from the factory and is amazing to drive, end of story. It sounds amazing, and it's a car you can literally drive off the showroom floor and track it for an 8 hour session and then drive it home. There are not many OEM cars that can do that, especially not do it while being one of the top 5 or 6 fastest cars around a track ever made.
    You are right it isn't all about starightline speed but I'd rather have a damn 991 GT3 than the LF-A. Seriously. It won't even be much behind if any in performance WITH a naturally aspirated ix-cylinder for a 1/3 of the price.

    WTF is impressive about the LF-A other than the price?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    Come on now...if you are gong to judge a car based off of straight line speed then everyone should just buy a Mustang, Corvette, or GTR, depending on price point and all other cars just shouldn't exist including M3. The car was underrated from the factory and is amazing to drive, end of story. It sounds amazing, and it's a car you can literally drive off the showroom floor and track it for an 8 hour session and then drive it home. There are not many OEM cars that can do that, especially not do it while being one of the top 5 or 6 fastest cars around a track ever made.
    It has underperformed in track test as well. Straight line and lap times are underwhelming.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    WTF is impressive about the LF-A other than the price?
    Nothing really. LFA has been marketed and hyped for years before it was released. The marketing continued after realease.

    458 has been consistently quicker in tests and lap times.


    Lightning Lap 2013:
    458 - 2:49.9
    LFA - 2:55.1

    Nurburgring by Auto Bild magazine:
    458 -7:32.92 by Sascha Bert
    LFA - 7:38.85 by Sascha Bert

    Laguna Lap 2012:
    458 - 1:36.22 by Randy Pobst
    LFA - 1:36.39 by Randy Pobst

    458 - Autocar Dry Handling Track 1:08.90
    LFA - Autocar Dry Handling Track 1:11.60

    458 - Hockenheim Short 1:09.70
    LFA - Hockenheim Short 1:11.00

    458 - Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours Club 1:20.16
    LFA - Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours Club 1:20.64

    458 - Laguna Seca 1:36.22
    LFA - Laguna Seca 1:36.39

    458 - SportAuto wet handling test 1:33.60
    LFA - SportAuto wet handling test 1:35.50

    458 - Nordschleife Full (Sport Auto) 7:32.92
    LFA - Nordschleife Full (Sport Auto) 7:38.85

    458 - Balocco 2:43.90
    LFA - Balocco 2:48.52

    458 - Virginia International Raceway 2:49.90
    LFA - Virginia International Raceway 2:55.10

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    When a Ferrari looks like a performance bargain you know you $#@!ed up.

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    I hope infinity builds this. It will keep BMW on their toes and raising the bar. I don't like the styling and doubt it will be $75k
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BlackJetE90OC Click here to enlarge
    It sounds good, that is about it. For the price its performance measures are nothing to write home about.
    Yeah, a 7:14 around the 'ring is 'nothing to write home about' Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BlackJetE90OC Click here to enlarge
    Nothing really. LFA has been marketed and hyped for years before it was released. The marketing continued after realease.

    458 has been consistently quicker in tests and lap times.


    Lightning Lap 2013:
    458 - 2:49.9
    LFA - 2:55.1

    Nurburgring by Auto Bild magazine:
    458 -7:32.92 by Sascha Bert
    LFA - 7:38.85 by Sascha Bert

    Laguna Lap 2012:
    458 - 1:36.22 by Randy Pobst
    LFA - 1:36.39 by Randy Pobst

    458 - Autocar Dry Handling Track 1:08.90
    LFA - Autocar Dry Handling Track 1:11.60

    458 - Hockenheim Short 1:09.70
    LFA - Hockenheim Short 1:11.00

    458 - Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours Club 1:20.16
    LFA - Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours Club 1:20.64

    458 - Laguna Seca 1:36.22
    LFA - Laguna Seca 1:36.39

    458 - SportAuto wet handling test 1:33.60
    LFA - SportAuto wet handling test 1:35.50

    458 - Nordschleife Full (Sport Auto) 7:32.92
    LFA - Nordschleife Full (Sport Auto) 7:38.85

    458 - Balocco 2:43.90
    LFA - Balocco 2:48.52

    458 - Virginia International Raceway 2:49.90
    LFA - Virginia International Raceway 2:55.10
    Well this list is just inaccurate from the start....LFA 7:38 at the ring? LOL that was a test lap, with the first generation, a whopping 10hp less than the 2012 which was last year they made it. It did it in 7:14

    1. Radical SR8LM 6:48.00 Watch Onboard '09
    2. Radical SR8 6:56.08 Watch Onboard '05
    3. Porsche 918 Spyder 6:57.00 Watch Onboard '13
    4. Nissan GT-R Nismo 7:08.68 Watch Onboard '15
    5. Gumpert Apollo Speed 7:11.57 Watch Onboard '09
    6. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 7:12.13 Watch Onboard '10
    7. Lexus LFA Nurburgring Package 7:14.64 Watch Onboard '12
    8. Donkervoort D8 RS 7:14.89 Watch Onboard '05
    9. Porsche 911 GT2 RS 7:18.00 Onboard N/A '10
    10. Radical SR3 Turbo 7:19.00 Watch Onboard '03
    11. Nissan GT-R 7:19.10 Onboard N/A '13
    12. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 7:19.63 Watch Onboard '12
    13. Dodge Viper ACR 7:22.1 Watch Onboard '09
    14. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package 7:22.68 Watch Onboard '11
    15. Gumpert Apollo Sport 7:24.00 Onboard N/A '07
    16. Nissan GT-R 7:24.22 Watch Onboard '11
    17. Maserati MC12 7:24.29 Watch Onboard '04
    18. Pagani Zonda F Clubsport 7:24.65 Onboard N/A '05
    19. Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 7:25.00 Onboard N/A '11
    20. KTM X-Bow R 7:25.00 Onboard N/A '11
    21. Ferrari Enzo 7:25.21 Watch Onboard '02
    22. Mercedes SLS AMG Black Series 7:26.40 Watch Onboard '14
    23. Nissan GT-R 7:26.70 Watch Onboard '08
    24. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 7:27.00 Watch Onboard '11
    25. Ferrari 458 Italia 7:28.00 Watch Onboard '09
    26. McLaren MP4-12C 7:28.00 Onboard N/A '10
    27. Porsche Carrera GT 7:28.71 Watch Onboard '03
    28. Mercedes SLS AMG GT 7:30.00 Onboard N/A '12
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    That's the Nurburgring Package. They had to come out with that basically to make the car looks less f'ing lame. It also ups the cars price to what, $450k? Wow what a freaking bargain for an extra 10 hp and some other bull$#@!. The regular LF-A can't do that time and Lexus basically used a one-off example to set that time and it hasn't been matched or approached by anyone since.

    So big whoop for $450k they can keep it and I'll take a 991 GT3 and the change.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    When a Ferrari looks like a performance bargain you know you $#@!ed up.
    lol, true that, no argument there. Dat sound doe! And craftsmanship, and rareness, for half the price it would make more sense, no argument there
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    That's the Nurburgring Package. They had to come out with that basically to make the car looks less f'ing lame. It also ups the cars price to what, $450k? Wow what a freaking bargain for an extra 10 hp and some other bull$#@!. The regular LF-A can't do that time and Lexus basically used a one-off example to set that time and it hasn't been matched or approached by anyone since.

    So big whoop for $450k they can keep it and I'll take a 991 GT3 and the change.
    No argument here, never said I would spend the $400k. Yeah, they only made 50 of them I believe. I don't know what happened, if they just thought the engine was going to make more power, or car would be lighter or what, but it is a fun car to drive, and looks awesome. I never argued it was a great performance value, we all know american muscle is at the to of the charts in that category.

    My only point is it truly is a great car, and I don't think people that haven't driven or at least been in one understand it. Because of its rareness you don't lose much if any buying one, so what's the big deal?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    500 rich people on planet earth a supercar do not make. It doesn't perform like it should for the price, it doesn't look like it should for the price, it doesn't offer anything for the price other than exclusivity. That car sucks. 458 all day and keep the change.
    How did it drive?
    I assume you have driven it seeing as you are so certain it sucks.

    I know the pricing is different here but if I had the choice of a 458 for $650k or an LFA for $750k I would take the LFA all day.

    Back on topic, the Eau Rouge is a cool idea but $#@! Infinitis are ugly.

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    Well the one thing that the LFA has going for it is it will have the highest probability of increasing its value in the future. I could see them going for above a million in auction a decade from now.


    I can imagine parking this bad boy Infiniti at my office, jumping out with a huge grin and hearing something like. " Man R.G. That's a sweet ass body kit on that maxima". Then driving home and getting roasted by an M5.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Nugs Click here to enlarge
    How did it drive?
    I assume you have driven it seeing as you are so certain it sucks.

    I know the pricing is different here but if I had the choice of a 458 for $650k or an LFA for $750k I would take the LFA all day.

    Back on topic, the Eau Rouge is a cool idea but $#@! Infinitis are ugly.
    I need to drive it to know that it's overpriced and under-performing for the $? I need to land on the sun to know it's hot?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    Well this list is just inaccurate from the start....LFA 7:38 at the ring? LOL that was a test lap, with the first generation, a whopping 10hp less than the 2012 which was last year they made it. It did it in 7:14
    You are quoting a marketing exercise.

    I quoted 11 different third party tests. Using 100% off the showroom cars.

    Not factory ringers for marketing.

    11 to 1.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by R.G. Click here to enlarge
    Well the one thing that the LFA has going for it is it will have the highest probability of increasing its value in the future. I could see them going for above a million in auction a decade from now.


    I can imagine parking this bad boy Infiniti at my office, jumping out with a huge grin and hearing something like. " Man R.G. That's a sweet ass body kit on that maxima". Then driving home and getting roasted by an M5.
    I highly doubt that "EAU Rouge" Would get smoked. On a paper both cars make the same amount of power 560 HP. M5 has 65+ more TQ, That is needed to help that Heavy as Tank (4387 lbs) get going. Meanwhile the Eau Rouge is around 385? lbs and doesn't come equipped as yet with DCT But if it does the M5 would take and L. "Infiniti says the Q50 Eau Rouge will do 0-60 mph in under four seconds." M5 0-62 4.4 seconds. Last note this EAU Rouge comes equipped with the GTR Engine and that already has a STRONG Market. Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Nugs Click here to enlarge
    I know the pricing is different here but if I had the choice of a 458 for $650k or an LFA for $750k I would take the LFA all day.
    Yeah that pricing is nuts. 458 is $233k in the US.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by warpeacelove Click here to enlarge
    I highly doubt that "EAU Rouge" Would get smoked. On a paper both cars make the same amount of power 560 HP. M5 has 65+ more TQ, That is needed to help that Heavy as Tank (4387 lbs) get going. Meanwhile the Eau Rouge is around 385? lbs and doesn't come equipped as yet with DCT But if it does the M5 would take and L. "Infiniti says the Q50 Eau Rouge will do 0-60 mph in under four seconds." M5 0-62 4.4 seconds. Last note this EAU Rouge comes equipped with the GTR Engine and that already has a STRONG Market. Click here to enlarge

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    Yes, the GTR is in a strong market. Is this Infiniti trying to revive their car sales with this Hail Mary? Some sophisticated iphone research done by me just now reveals that infinity sales have avoided being completely abysmal by sales of their popular lopsided trucks. I didn't catch the weight you posted but if this thing is 3800lbs with that power out put, then it will be impressive. Is that enough to make the M5 and E class AMG buyers go check out an infinity. I doubt it. Someone else mentioned Cadillac sales, I think those buyers may be swayed.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by R.G. Click here to enlarge
    Yes, the GTR is in a strong market. Is this Infiniti trying to revive their car sales with this Hail Mary? Some sophisticated iphone research done by me just now reveals that infinity sales have avoided being completely abysmal by sales of their popular lopsided trucks. I didn't catch the weight you posted but if this thing is 3800lbs with that power out put, then it will be impressive. Is that enough to make the M5 and E class AMG buyers go check out an infinity. I doubt it. Someone else mentioned Cadillac sales, I think those buyers may be swayed.
    I did, and I agree, I just don't see BMW, MB, or Audi buyers being swayed by anyone except one of the other three. Cadillac buyers on the other hand...they are the ones looking for best value in a performance luxury car, that's why they are looking at Cadillac, and why they would be open to looking at other cars.

    Ya know it's funny, you talk to some people, even people that have owned Acura, Lexus, Audi, and Cadillac, and it's just funny to hear them talk about how they view each brand and its models.
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    Stock vs stock hasn't there been multiple vids of M6's walking away from GTR's from a roll? I don't see this thing being faster than an M5.
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    Stock vs stock hasn't there been multiple vids of M6's walking away from GTR's from a roll? I don't see this thing being faster than an M5.
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