Close

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 30
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    117,756
    Rep Points
    31,551.1
    Mentioned
    2064 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    316


    Reputation: Yes | No

    Successfully Completed S62 V8 into E30 Swap

    This project was done by a user by the name of glenn-b from the UK. This is apparently his second swap. The car is also a beautiful Warsteiner racing M3 replica. The tuning was done utilizing the factory ECU. We await more details from the owner but in the mean time, bask in the awesomeness.



    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    117,756
    Rep Points
    31,551.1
    Mentioned
    2064 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    316



    Reputation: Yes | No
    Some more pics:

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    offside engine mounting and manifolds
    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    nearside engine mounting and manifolds

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    nearside manifold exit's

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    offside manifold exit's

    Click here to enlarge

    looking up from underneath the arb, at the offside manifolds

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    this is the heat sleeving that i cut off out of the way.....

    Click here to enlarge

    looking down the side of the block-offside

    Click here to enlarge

    looking down the side of the block-nearside

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

  3. #3
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    left lane
    Posts
    903
    Rep Points
    218.9
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    3


    Reputation: Yes | No
    Click here to enlarge Nice
    Click here to enlarge

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    743
    Rep Points
    1,050.8
    Mentioned
    23 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    11


    Reputation: Yes | No
    Wow that car must rumble.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    2,266
    Rep Points
    936.0
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    10


    Reputation: Yes | No
    niiice tight fit, kinda like the m5 V10 someone shoehorned into an e30

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    16
    Rep Points
    52.7
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    0


    Reputation: Yes | No
    This is my next project.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    117,756
    Rep Points
    31,551.1
    Mentioned
    2064 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    316



    Reputation: Yes | No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DCR Click here to enlarge
    This is my next project.
    And a very sweet one it will be. Let us know when you do it.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    5
    Rep Points
    3.1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    0


    Reputation: Yes | No
    Any idea on weight diff between the S14 and the S62? (I know the 62 is heavier, looking for numbers).
    We may do this swap as well on a race car, but i'll be damned to upset the perfect balance of the E30 M3. Click here to enlarge

    Maybe I'll have to add 3 bags of sand to the trunk!! LOL

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    395
    Rep Points
    245.3
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    3


    Reputation: Yes | No
    s62 is all alu.. s14 block is steel ??

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Land of fire and ice
    Posts
    162
    Rep Points
    166.3
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    2


    1 out of 1 members liked this post. Reputation: Yes | No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by maponterios Click here to enlarge
    Any idea on weight diff between the S14 and the S62? (I know the 62 is heavier, looking for numbers). <br>
    We may do this swap as well on a race car, but i'll be damned to upset the perfect balance of the E30 M3. <img src="images/smilies/icon/sad.gif" border="0" alt="" title="sad" smilieid="298" class="inlineimg"><br>
    <br>
    Maybe I'll have to add 3 bags of sand to the trunk!! LOL

    I cannot post links but search for "BMW E Numbers List" on Google.

    S14 is 106 kg while the S62 is 158 kg. People have done this but in a race car
    you might want to move it further back.

    Another challenge will be for the driver handling the torque in such a light car!

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    South Africa
    Posts
    1,322
    Rep Points
    1,955.5
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    0


    Reputation: Yes | No
    Cool swop. There is a Cobra in my neck of the woods using stock ECU as well. Will try get pics.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    2,266
    Rep Points
    936.0
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    10


    Reputation: Yes | No
    would it be easier to do this or an ls1 into an e30??
    Click here to enlarge

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Land of fire and ice
    Posts
    162
    Rep Points
    166.3
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    2


    Reputation: Yes | No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Yukohama Click here to enlarge
    would it be easier to do this or an ls1 into an e30??
    Probably not but putting an LS1 into a BMW is just wrong.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    286
    Rep Points
    291.7
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    3


    1 out of 1 members liked this post. Reputation: Yes | No
    http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk/enumber.html

    S14 106kg
    S62 158kg
    S50B32 152kg

    User S62: you have the supercharged S50B32 which means its probably close to 160kg with the aftercooler and returning similar power levels as the S62 Click here to enlarge
    1995 BMW M3GT nr:111/350 TwinTurbo and some other mods.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    286
    Rep Points
    291.7
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    3


    Reputation: Yes | No
    Just a quick note.. this seems to be a bit shaky, because the S65 is not going to be 202kg... unless this is longblock vs a full engine with headers and trim/fluids.
    1995 BMW M3GT nr:111/350 TwinTurbo and some other mods.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    395
    Rep Points
    245.3
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    3


    1 out of 1 members liked this post. Reputation: Yes | No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by s62 Click here to enlarge
    Probably not but putting an LS1 into a BMW is just wrong.
    Putting a LS1 in a E30 is wrong how ???

    motor is a lot lighter, standalone issues are much less hassle, the motor will sit further back, most of the weight will be transferred under the car thus making it a great handling car (yes, the T56 is a heavy unit, but not really much heavier than a G420/520).

    I see no issues with a LSx motor in a E30 or E36, i think they are great motors that lack the frame around it, hence BMW (the perfect car) is a real good candidate Click here to enlarge

    *edit*

    Not to mention the price of each hp in a LSx vs M62/S62 Click here to enlarge

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Land of fire and ice
    Posts
    162
    Rep Points
    166.3
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    2


    Reputation: Yes | No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by angelic0- Click here to enlarge
    Putting a LS1 in a E30 is wrong how ???

    motor is a lot lighter, standalone issues are much less hassle, the motor will sit further back, most of the weight will be transferred under the car thus making it a great handling car (yes, the T56 is a heavy unit, but not really much heavier than a G420/520).

    I see no issues with a LSx motor in a E30 or E36, i think they are great motors that lack the frame around it, hence BMW (the perfect car) is a real good candidate Click here to enlarge

    *edit*

    Not to mention the price of each hp in a LSx vs M62/S62 Click here to enlarge
    LSX are nice motors, no doubt.

    But a BMW should have a BMW motor IMHO.

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    395
    Rep Points
    245.3
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    3


    Reputation: Yes | No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by s62 Click here to enlarge
    LSX are nice motors, no doubt.

    But a BMW should have a BMW motor IMHO.
    I totally agree, but for someone who is making a track machine on a budget... a LSx motor in a E30 or E36 chassis would be one of the best things to do...

    If you want to look at a RETARDEDLY cool LSx build check this out:
    http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1225465

  19. #19
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    2,266
    Rep Points
    936.0
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    10


    Reputation: Yes | No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by s62 Click here to enlarge
    Probably not but putting an LS1 into a BMW is just wrong.
    only ask since i've seen a couple of them and they sure do scoot for less $$. S62 would be more awesome though, hence i think this swap it awesome
    Click here to enlarge

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    117,756
    Rep Points
    31,551.1
    Mentioned
    2064 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    316



    Reputation: Yes | No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by s62 Click here to enlarge
    Probably not but putting an LS1 into a BMW is just wrong.
    Not at all.

  21. #21
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    117,756
    Rep Points
    31,551.1
    Mentioned
    2064 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    316



    Reputation: Yes | No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by angelic0- Click here to enlarge
    Putting a LS1 in a E30 is wrong how ???

    motor is a lot lighter, standalone issues are much less hassle, the motor will sit further back, most of the weight will be transferred under the car thus making it a great handling car (yes, the T56 is a heavy unit, but not really much heavier than a G420/520).

    I see no issues with a LSx motor in a E30 or E36, i think they are great motors that lack the frame around it, hence BMW (the perfect car) is a real good candidate Click here to enlarge

    *edit*

    Not to mention the price of each hp in a LSx vs M62/S62 Click here to enlarge
    Very well said.

  22. #22
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    5
    Rep Points
    3.1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    0


    Reputation: Yes | No
    Yickes. Sounds like a lot of weight difference. I would hate to upset the weight balance that much. After all, this is the main reason why E30 M3's where so successful. Weight balance is amazing.

    Do you guys know of anyone racing this configuration? Either way, i can expect the car to be....well...tail happy with that power Click here to enlarge But, maybe someone has figured out a way.

    Moving the engine towards the rear seems like a nightmare. Don't know. Seems like S14+turbo may be the way to go. After all, adding a turbo and cooling systems will be a LOT less weight than the S62? But then again.....reliability.

    OPTIONS OPTIONS!

  23. #23
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    117,756
    Rep Points
    31,551.1
    Mentioned
    2064 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    316



    Reputation: Yes | No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by maponterios Click here to enlarge
    Moving the engine towards the rear seems like a nightmare. Don't know. Seems like S14+turbo may be the way to go. After all, adding a turbo and cooling systems will be a LOT less weight than the S62? But then again.....reliability.

    OPTIONS OPTIONS!
    An S14 turbo makes a lot more sense than swapping in an S62 IMO.

  24. #24
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Land of fire and ice
    Posts
    162
    Rep Points
    166.3
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    2


    Reputation: Yes | No
    If you want to race then maybe a S50B32 or S54 might be a better choice.

  25. #25
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    le Paris
    Posts
    6,653
    Rep Points
    -228.0
    Mentioned
    48 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    0


    Reputation: Yes | No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by maponterios Click here to enlarge
    Yickes. Sounds like a lot of weight difference. I would hate to upset the weight balance that much. After all, this is the main reason why E30 M3's where so successful. Weight balance is amazing.

    Do you guys know of anyone racing this configuration? Either way, i can expect the car to be....well...tail happy with that power Click here to enlarge But, maybe someone has figured out a way.

    Moving the engine towards the rear seems like a nightmare. Don't know. Seems like S14+turbo may be the way to go. After all, adding a turbo and cooling systems will be a LOT less weight than the S62? But then again.....reliability.

    OPTIONS OPTIONS!
    a friend of mine swapped a S38B38 in an E30 M3, the swap is so sweet. the sound of S38 with alpha-N setup is better than anything.
    it's a heavy engine ( 150 kg ), but N/A with the right mods it makes the same power as S62 plus it's a lot cheaper and anyone can tune it.
    adding E39 Diff with LSD in the back is a must, and with that you will add some weight on back which keeps the weight distribution near as perfect.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •