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    Differences between all the LS motors

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    LS1

    Although the one that started it all is already considered relatively old, no one could have predicted the impact the original Gen III LS1 would have on the hot rodding public. The LS1's greatest asset is its revolutionary 15-degree cylinder heads, which are capable of flowing over 320 cfm in the hands of a skilled porter. So good were these castings, in fact, that it took the aftermarket over five years to even attempt to top the factory design. Simply massaging the stock heads and swapping in a larger cam had LS1s easily approaching the 550hp mark in no time. Furthermore, bone stock LS1s routinely pushed F-bodies into the 12s. While LS1 F-bodies were rated at 40 hp less than their Corvette-spec brethren, they essentially produced the same power despite minute differences in cam specs. Likewise, all '01-04 LS1s were upgraded from the factory with the same valvesprings and high-flow intake manifold as found in the LS6. One of the biggest drawbacks of the LS1 are its thin iron cylinder liners that can only be bored about 0.010 over. Anything larger requires re-sleeving the block with aftermarket liners, which isn't cheap, but doing so enables displacement figures well in excess of 400 ci. Likewise, the standard 3.900-inch bore isn't compatible with the latest and greatest GM L92 cylinder heads. Nonetheless, the original LS1 provides more than enough power potential for the vast majority of hot rods, and there are still a ton of them available in salvage yards ready for plucking.

    DISPLACEMENT: 346 ci
    BLOCK: Cast aluminum
    HEADS: Aluminum 15-degree cathedral port
    BORE/STROKE: 3.900 x 3.622
    COMPRESSION: 10:1
    CAMSHAFT (í01+ F-BODY): 196/207 @ 0.050; 0.467/0.479; 116
    OUTPUT: 305-350 hp and 335-375 lb-ft
    WHAT ITíS IN: '98-02 F-body,
    '97-04 Corvette,
    '04 GTO
    GMPP PN: 17801267


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    LS2
    The first of the Gen IV small-blocks, the 400hp LS2 was first unveiled in the '05 Corvette. Compared to its LS1 and LS6 forbears, it boasted a larger 4.000-inch bore while retaining a 3.622-inch stroke, which bumped displacement to an even 6.0 liters. At its core, the LS2 resembles an enlarged LS6. It utilizes LS6 cylinder heads, as well as an '01-spec LS6 camshaft. Subtle differences include a larger 90mm throttle body (75mm on LS1/LS6), a higher 10.9:1 compression ratio, and a different intake manifold. Interestingly, the LS2 intake manifold features slightly greater plenum volume and recontoured runners, which actually flows less than the LS6 intake. For hot rodders, one of the key advantages the LS2 has over its smaller-bore counterparts is that it's compatible with the highly desirable rectangle-port L92 cylinder heads.

    DISPLACEMENT: 364 ci
    BLOCK: Cast aluminum
    HEADS: Aluminum 15-degree cathedral port
    BORE/STROKE: 4.000 x 3.622
    COMPRESSION: 10.9:1
    CAMSHAFT: 204/211 @ 0.050; 0.525/0.525; 116
    OUTPUT: 400 hp and 400 lb-ft
    WHAT ITíS IN: '05-07 Corvette, '05-06 SSR and GTO, '06-07 CTS-V, '06-09 Trailblazer SS
    GMPP PN: 19156261


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    LS3/L92/L99
    Adequately covering the LS3's history requires first examining the L92. This trick Gen IV mill debuted in the '07 Cadillac Escalade, and is rated at 403 hp. Its outstanding output is largely attributable to a set of rectangle-port cylinder heads that borrow their basic port design from the LS7. These castings flow 330 cfm out of the box, and are available for just $800 fully assembled from GMPP. Blurring the lines between GM's car and truck lines of engines, the L92 was the first Vortec motor with an aluminum block, and the first GM small-block ever to utilize variable valve timing. The bump in displacement to 6.2L over the LS2 and Vortec 6000 comes courtesy of a larger 4.065-inch bore. By dropping the L92's variable valve timing capabilities and fitting a lower-profile intake manifold, GM created the LS3 to serve as the base motor in the '08-and-up Corvette. In addition to a slightly stronger block than the LS2, the LS3 is fitted with an '01 LS6 cam that's been tweaked with a smidgen more intake lobe lift. The result is 430 hp and 428 lb-ft. As with prior generations, the base Corvette motor also powers the top-of-the-line 2010 Camaro. However, automatic-equipped SS Camaros have an L99 under their hoods, which is a slightly detuned LS3 with active cylinder deactivation that produces 400 hp and 410 lb-ft.

    DISPLACEMENT: 376 ci
    BLOCK: Cast aluminum
    HEADS: Aluminum 15-degree rectangle port
    BORE/STROKE: 4.065 x 3.622
    COMPRESSION: 10.7:1
    CAMSHAFT (LS3): 204/211 @ 0.050; 0.551/0.525; 116
    OUTPUT: 400-430 hp and 410-428 lb-ft
    WHAT ITíS IN: '08+ Corvette, '10 Camaro , '08+ G8 GTP (LS3), '07+ Escalade, Tahoe, Silverado, Yukon, Sierra, Hummer H2 (L92), '10 Camaro automatic (L99)
    GMPP PN (LS3): 19201992


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    LS4
    The oddball of the LS family, the Gen IV LS4 was designed specifically for transverse mounting in front-wheel-drive Impalas and Monte Carlos. To accomplish this, GM shortened the LS4's overall length-from crankshaft to flexplate-by 13mm and streamlined the accessory drive. Furthermore, it shares the same 3.780 x 3.622-inch bore and stroke dimensions as Vortec 5300 truck motors, but is based on an aluminum block and topped with LS6 cylinder heads. Despite their displacement handicap, LS4s are relatively stout for their size, producing between 290-303 hp. However, they're almost as expensive as LS1s and LS6s on the secondhand market, so it's of little value to muscle car buffs seeking a swap candidate.

    DISPLACEMENT: 325 ci
    BLOCK: Cast aluminum
    HEADS: Aluminum 15-degree cathedral port
    BORE/STROKE: 3.780 x 3.622
    COMPRESSION: 10:1
    OUTPUT: 290-303 hp and 325 lb-ft
    WHAT ITíS IN: '06+ Impala SS, '06-07 Monte Carlo SS, '05-08 Grand Prix GXP, '08+ LaCrosse


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    LS6
    First introduced in the '01 Corvette Z06, the Gen III LS6 is basically a hopped up version of the LS1. In fact, it shares much more in common with the LS1 than the LS2, LS3, or LS4. Compared to the LS1, the LS6 boasts improved cylinders heads, a larger camshaft, a better-flowing intake manifold, a more durable valvetrain, a bump in compression, and stronger main bearing bulkheads. Furthermore, the LS6 head design features a raised port floor, and a smoother transition at the short-turn radius for improved flow. The exhaust ports were also altered from an oval to a D-shaped design. These mods bumped hp to 385 in '01, and to 405 in '02 thanks to an even larger cam. There was a time when factory LS6 heads were the hot ticket for enthusiasts, but the design has long been superseded by superior factory and aftermarket offerings.

    DISPLACEMENT: 346 ci
    BLOCK: Cast aluminum
    HEADS: Aluminum 15-degree cathedral port
    BORE/STROKE: 3.900 x 3.622
    COMPRESSION: 10.5:1
    CAMSHAFT (í01): 204/211 @ 0.050; 0.525/0.525; 116
    CAMSHAFT (í02+): 204/218 @ 0.050; 0.555/0.551; 117.5
    OUTPUT: 385-405 hp and 385-400 lb-ft
    WHAT ITíS IN: '01-04 Corvette Z06, í04-05 CTS-V
    GMPP PN: 17801268


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    LS7
    Granted it falls 133 hp shy of the LS9's staggering output-which is substantial in anyone's book-but in many respects the 505hp LS7 is an even more impressive engineering feat. Without the assistance of a factory-installed blower, the Gen IV LS7 gets the job done the old-fashioned way, with lots of cubic inches and airflow. Its design was heavily influenced by the Le Mans-winning factory Corvette racing program, and as such, the LS7 packs loads of bonafide race-bred hardware. To achieve its epic 427 ci of displacement, the LS7 incorporates press-fit iron cylinder liners in lieu of the cast-in sleeves found in lesser Gen III/IV small-blocks, which enables boring the block out to 4.125 inches. The short-block is further fortified with a 4.000-inch forged steel 4140 crank, titanium rods, 11:1 hypereutectic pistons, and doweled steel main caps. With nearly 0.600 inches of lift, the 211/230 @ 0.050 cam is just epic, and the dry sump oil system is simply unheard of for a production motor. Displacement is just half of the battle, and the LS7's cylinder heads are equally impressive. These revolutionary CNC-ported 12-degree castings feature 2.20/1.61-inch valves (the intakes are titanium), and flow an astounding 370 cfm. That's enough to put most big-block heads to shame. Best of all, these castings are available from GMPP for about $2,500. The end product of all this pimp hardware is a motor that revs freely to 7,000 rpm and spits out 505 hp, which makes it the baddest naturally aspirated small-block ever built.

    DISPLACEMENT: 427 ci
    BLOCK: Cast aluminum
    HEADS: Aluminum 12-degree rectangle port
    BORE/STROKE: 4.125 x 4.000
    COMPRESSION: 11:1
    CAMSHAFT: 211/230 @ 0.050; 0.591/0.591; 120.5
    OUTPUT: 505 hp and 470 lb-ft
    WHAT ITíS IN: '06+ Corvette Z06
    GMPP PN: 7802397


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    LS9
    The big hoss in LS land, at least for the moment, is the factory-supercharged 638hp small-block that powers the new Corvette ZR1. Not only is the Gen IV LS9 the most powerful engine ever conceived by GM, it easily produces the fattest torque curve of any Chevy in history. While its torque peak of 604 lb-ft at 3,800 rpm is very impressive, the fact that it belts out 350 lb-ft at just 1,000 rpm is downright breathtaking. At its core, the LS9 shares more in common with the LS3 and L92-found in base Corvettes and Cadillac Escalades, respectively-than the LS7. To enhance block rigidity, GM passed on the LS7's 4.125-inch bore dimensions for the thicker cylinder walls afforded by smaller 4.065-inch holes. Furthermore, the block is cast from 319-T7 aluminum and features larger bulkheads, which makes it substantially stronger than prior LS units. It encases a steel crank, titanium rods, and forged 9.1:1 pistons. With a remarkably efficient 2.3L Eaton blower huffing out 10.5 psi through a dual-core intercooler, the exotic race-ported 12-degree LS7 cylinder heads were deemed unnecessary. Instead, GM opted for 15-degree rectangle-port castings that are very similar in design to the L92 and LS3 heads, but built from more durable A-356T6 aluminum. Sometime this summer, GM Performance Parts will start selling complete LS9 crate motors (PN: 19201990) for about $22,000. Granted that isn't cheap, it's still a heck of a lot less than trying to replicate a motor of this caliber that's also emissions legal and capable of lasting 100,000 miles. Moreover, the rugged LS9 block will certainly be a popular foundation for LS stroker buildups once it's released.

    DISPLACEMENT: 376 ci
    BLOCK: Cast aluminum
    HEADS: Aluminum 15-degree rectangle port
    BORE/STROKE: 4.065 x 3.622
    COMPRESSION: 9.1:1
    CAMSHAFT: 211/230 @ 0.050; 0.562/0.558; 122.5
    OUTPUT: 638 hp and 604 lb-ft
    WHAT ITíS IN: '09+ Corvette ZR1
    GMPP PN: 19201990


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    LSA
    Think of the LSA as the LS9's detuned little brother. Even so, the LSA's 556 hp and 551 lb-ft have helped make the '09 Cadillac CTS-V the quickest four-door sedan to ever lap Germany's famed Nurburgring road course. Major differences between it and the LS9 are the use of hypereutectic pistons instead of forged slugs, and powdered metal connecting rods instead of titanium units. While the LSA also utilizes an Eaton blower, it's slightly smaller at 1.9L, and produces 1.5 fewer psi of boost. It's a very impressive setup, indeed, but the limited production numbers of Cadillac's top dog means there will be very few LSA's to extract from your local boneyard.

    DISPLACEMENT: 376 ci
    BLOCK: Cast aluminum
    HEADS: Aluminum 15-degree rectangle port
    BORE/STROKE: 4.065 x 3.622
    COMPRESSION: 9.1:1
    OUTPUT: 556 hp and 551 lb-ft
    WHAT ITíS IN: '09+ CTS-V


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    LQ4/LQ9
    As the LS6 was being developed inside GM, engineers were so enamored with its performance that they decided to spread some love to the truck line as well. By bolting LS6-style heads to a big-bore iron block, GM created the LQ4. Offered as the top-of-the-line gasoline engine in fullsize pickups and SUVs, the LQ4 was rated at a stout 300Click here to enlarge hp and 360-370 lb-ft. In '02, Cadillac wanted a piece of the action too, and added a bigger cam and more compression to boost output to 347 hp. Due to their rugged iron blocks, generous 4.000-inch bore diameters, and excellent cylinder heads, the LQ4 and LQ9 are among the most coveted Gen III/IV motors on the secondhand market. With the exception of their larger combustion chambers, the LQ4/LQ9 heads are virtually identical to the LS6 castings. Furthermore, their 4.000-inch bores enable them to be paired with GM L92 cylinder heads. By bolting a set of these budget $800 rectangle-port castings to a stock 6.0L short-block, you can make some serious power for peanuts. Unless you're excessively fastidious about saving a few pounds, it makes little sense to pass up on an LQ4/LQ9 for a comparably priced LS1/LS6.

    DISPLACEMENT: 364 ci
    BLOCK: Cast iron
    HEADS: Aluminum or iron 15-degree cathedral port
    BORE/STROKE: 4.000 x 3.622
    COMPRESSION: 9.4:1-10:1
    CAMSHAFT (í99-00 LQ4): 191/190 @ 0.050; 0.457/.0.466; 114
    CAMSHAFT (í01-04 LQ4 AND LQ9): 196/207 @ 0.050; 0.467/0.479; 116
    OUTPUT: 300-347 hp and 360-380 lb-ft
    WHAT ITíS IN: '99-04 Silverado, Suburban, Yukon, and Hummer H2 (LQ4); '02-06 Escalade, '03-07 Silverado SS and Sierra (LQ9)
    GMPP PN (LQ9): 19156262


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    LY6
    When it came time to update the venerable LQ4 in '07, GM bolted on a set of L92 heads and increased the compression to create the LY6. These simple tweaks bumped output to 352 hp. The addition of variable valve timing helps broaden the powerband as well. The LY6 is currently offered for heavy-duty hauling applications in 3/4-ton pickups and SUVsClick here to enlarge. While it's too new to be filling up boneyards just yet, expect it to be a very popular choice amongst engine swappers in a couple of years.

    DISPLACEMENT: 364 ci
    BLOCK: Cast iron
    HEADS: Aluminum 15-degree rectangle port
    BORE/STROKE: 4.000 x 3.622
    COMPRESSION: 9.67:1
    OUTPUT: 352 hp and 382 lb-ft
    WHAT ITíS IN: 3/4-ton '07+ Silverado, Sierra, Suburban, and Yukon


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    L76
    Used primarily in light-duty trucksClick here to enlarge, the L76 is essentially an aluminum block variant of the LY6. Major differences include a higher compression ratio and a slightly larger cam, which boosts output to 366 hp and 376 lb-ft. Like the LY6, the L76 utilizes variable valve timing, but ups the ante even further with active cylinder deactivation. Interestingly, the L76 also powers the Pontiac G8 GT. The car version of the L76 drops variable valve timing and features an LS3 intake manifold, which sacrifices some hp while picking up some torque.

    Displacement: 364 ci
    Block: Cast aluminum
    Heads: Aluminum 15-degree rectangle port
    Bore/stRoke: 4.000 x 3.622
    Compression: 10.4:1
    Output: 366 hp and 376 lb-ft (trucks); 361 hp and 385 lb-ft (cars)
    What itís in: í07+ Silverado, Sierra, Suburban, Yukon,
    Avalanche, and G8 GT


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    Vortech 4800
    The smallest of the Gen III/IV platform is also the least desirable. While they're very capable mills for their intended application and can power stock Silverados to respectable 14-second e.t.'s, their lack of cubes make them unlikely candidates for engine swaps. This assessment is only reinforced by the fact that they're just as expensive as the 5.3L at the wrecking yard. The Gen III LR4 was built from '99-06 for fullsize trucks and SUVs, and was replaced in '07 by the Gen IV LY2. Other than tweaks universal to all Gen IV motors, the difference between Gen III and Gen IV 4.8L small-blocks are negligible.

    DISPLACEMENT: 293 ci
    BLOCK: Cast iron or aluminum
    HEADS: Iron or aluminum 15-degree cathedral port
    BORE/STROKE: 3.780 x 3.267
    COMPRESSION: 9.5:1
    OUTPUT: 270-295 hp and 285-305 lb-ft
    WHAT ITíS IN: '99-06 Silverado, Tahoe, Yukon, and Sierra (LR4); '07+ Silverado, Tahoe, Yukon, and Sierra (LY2)


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    Vortech 5300
    Many consider the 5.7L LS1 as "the new 350 Chevy," but that title more accurately goes to the 5.3L Vortec truck motor. As the bread-and-butter small-block from '99 onwards, GM installs the 5.3L in the vast majority of its fullsize trucks and SUVs. Considering that GM has built way more trucks than cars in the last 10 years, the 5.3L is far more plentiful and cheaper than its 5.7-, 6.0-, 6.2-, and 7.0L big brothers. For roughly $500 at your local boneyard, complete 5.3L motors can be had for a fraction of the price of an LS1 or an LS6. Price alone, however, isn't what makes the 5.3L the biggest sleeper in the Gen III/IV camp. Its cylinder heads flow just as well in ported trim as 5.7L LS1 castings. In fact, in the early days of Gen III tweaking, before aftermarket heads became widely available, many enthusiasts preferred 5.3L heads to 5.7L LS1 heads due to the slight bump in compression that their smaller combustion chambers afforded. For those that see the 5.3L's smaller displacement as a drawback, it has sufficient cylinder wall thickness to easily accommodate the same 3.900-inch bore diameter as the 5.7L. The added durability of an iron block is tough to beat as well. From '99-07, GM built several versions of the Gen III Vortec 5300, of which the LM7 is the most common. The LM4 and L33 are aluminum-block variants of the LM7, while the L59 is a flex-fuel spinoff. GM began phasing in Gen IV 5.3Ls in '05 with the launch of the all-aluminum LH6, which replaced the LM4 in midsize SUVsClick here to enlarge. Then in '07, the iron-block, 320hp LY5 was introduced as an update to the stalwart LM7 for use in fullsize trucks and SUVs. Also that year, the LMG and LC9 were unveiled as flex-fuel versions of the LY5 and LH6, respectively. Finally, the LH8 is a slightly detuned 300hp 5.3L that powers the '09-and-up Chevy Colorado pickup.

    DISPLACEMENT: 325 ci
    BLOCK: Cast iron or aluminum
    HEADS: Iron or aluminum 15-degree cathedral port
    BORE/STROKE: 3.780 x 3.622
    COMPRESSION: 9.5-10:1
    OUTPUT: 285-320 hp and 325-340 lb-ft
    WHAT ITíS IN: '99+ mid/fullsize trucks and SUVs
    GMPP PN: 19165628



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    Absolutely an awesome read and this sure makes setting up domesticboost.com easier.

    I need this now for Ford and Chrysler.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Absolutely an awesome read and this sure makes setting up domesticboost.com easier.

    I need this now for Ford and Chrysler.

    yea thats gonna be a bit harder since the ford motors dont go by a parent designation like the LS motors...
    "We need to upgrade your skill before we upgrade your horsepower"

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
    yea thats gonna be a bit harder since the ford motors dont go by a parent designation like the LS motors...
    Exactly.

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    Wow. I am way more informed for having read this!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Absolutely an awesome read and this sure makes setting up domesticboost.com easier.

    I need this now for Ford and Chrysler.

    Your starting a domestic boost now?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by All Motor Click here to enlarge
    Your starting a domestic boost now?
    I will. I'm just going to do a boost for everything. I'll just never sleep.

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    Alrihght sounds good to me minus you not sleeping haha

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    great post!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by All Motor Click here to enlarge
    Alrihght sounds good to me minus you not sleeping haha
    It's going to be somewhat complicated making this all work. I like the idea though. I mean we're basically into all performance cars here so it's natural. Might as well become the main site for automotive performance right?

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    What happened with germanNA.com?
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    Good stuff. Gen III/IV engines are where it's at.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
    What happened with germanNA.com?
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