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    N54 FBO + E85 vs FBO + Meth race????

    Does one exist on video? Trying to compare the power between meth and E85?
    2007 335i (100% stock with mods)

    N54 is not a German 2JZ lol

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    There are plenty dyno sheets of each posted for comparison.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
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    There are plenty dyno sheets of each posted for comparison.
    In the end... a dyno sheet means nothing because that could translate to something absolutely different on the street. A roll on race between two cars from ~50 to 120-130 is the most accurate comparison between 2 vehicles.
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    N54 is not a German 2JZ lol

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    i think i have a video, gotta check my page for it, brb

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
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    In the end... a dyno sheet means nothing because that could translate to something absolutely different on the street. A roll on race between two cars from ~50 to 120-130 is the most accurate comparison between 2 vehicles.
    I completely disagree. Many people cannot drive their cars. Everyone drives differently. Some people brake boost some do not. Many races someone gets a jump. One of the better ways to stack one car against another is a 1/4mi ET. The other is dyno comparison. Dyno comparison is not perfect but if you can at least get sheets from the same dyno same day that would be pretty relevant comparisons. Dyno jet comparisons still aren't too bad for comparison.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
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    I completely disagree. Many people cannot drive their cars. Everyone drives differently. Some people brake boost some do not. Many races someone gets a jump. One of the better ways to stack one car against another is a 1/4mi Trap Speed. The other is dyno comparison. Dyno comparison is not perfect but if you can at least get sheets from the same dyno same day that would be pretty relevant comparisons. Dyno jet comparisons still aren't too bad for comparison.
    FTFY... too man variables in the other.
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    Either sometime this week or next week I will be running against ChuckD05. He is g5 iso, DCI, DP's, FMIC, and running the backend flash with e60-e70. I am G5 Iso, DCI, DP's, Meth. It should be a decent race and we'll have a bunch of go-pro's going and probably some other n54's too!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by maristgrad09 Click here to enlarge
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    Either sometime this week or next week I will be running against ChuckD05. He is g5 iso, DCI, DP's, FMIC, and running the backend flash with e60-e70. I am G5 Iso, DCI, DP's, Meth. It should be a decent race and we'll have a bunch of go-pro's going and probably some other n54's too!
    Def get it on tape... it will be a great race. Make sure you have no meth issues beforehand. What trannies do you guys have?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by maristgrad09 Click here to enlarge
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    Either sometime this week or next week I will be running against ChuckD05. He is g5 iso, DCI, DP's, FMIC, and running the backend flash with e60-e70. I am G5 Iso, DCI, DP's, Meth. It should be a decent race and we'll have a bunch of go-pro's going and probably some other n54's too!
    +1. Can't wait to see the vids.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
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    +1. Can't wait to see the vids.
    My bet goes to E85




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    Really depends on variables like trannies, platform (e90/92/82) wheel size weight, driver etc.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90SoFlo Click here to enlarge
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    My bet goes to E85
    I agree since the e85 car has a flash tune with the jb4. Will probably be more dialed in than the meth jb4 car. What meth concentration will you be running?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by justohigh Click here to enlarge
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    I agree since the e85 car has a flash tune with the jb4. Will probably be more dialed in than the meth jb4 car. What meth concentration will you be running?
    I'll probably be running like 70% or just boost juice (50/50). Both cars are AT, I have an e90 he has an e92 but I daily on 17" kosei's with radials and some weight reduction. Both cars are RWD. Should be a good run, but I think he'll edge me out due to the flash being more consistent.

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    Any interest in a stock turbo FBO E85/meth 6AT 335i vs an RB turbo FBO 93+meth 6MT 335i run while my stock turbos are on?

    I mean, I should get waxed, but it's fun to video.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
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    Any interest in a stock turbo FBO E85/meth 6AT 335i vs an RB turbo FBO 93+meth 6MT 335i run while my stock turbos are on?

    I mean, I should get waxed, but it's fun to video.
    What the? Why are you back on stock turbos?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by RnmEvo9 Click here to enlarge
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    What the? Why are you back on stock turbos?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
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    Tranny?

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    I've driven same tune and same mods on both 50/50 e85/93 + METH and race gas + meth. Race gas plus meth wins, but not by a lot.

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    my bet is fbo pump/meth

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    my bet is fbo pump/meth
    FBO + E85 is faster, IF it has Cobb Protune / or Procede/Jb4 plus backend flash.

    I have two protune maps, one for 93+Meth and one for E50+Meth. The ethanol map pulls MUCH harder.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
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    FBO + E85 is faster, IF it has Cobb Protune / or Procede/Jb4 plus backend flash.

    I have two protune maps, one for 93+Meth and one for E50+Meth. The ethanol map pulls MUCH harder.
    These PTF guys sure do know what they are doing vs. the other guys that initially pro-tuned us!!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
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    FBO + E85 is faster, IF it has Cobb Protune / or Procede/Jb4 plus backend flash.

    I have two protune maps, one for 93+Meth and one for E50+Meth. The ethanol map pulls MUCH harder.
    we shall see. i think JB4+meth will be faster

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    we shall see. i think JB4+meth will be faster
    Not without a back end flash, stock timing curve is not enough for max power.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JStang Click here to enlarge
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    These PTF guys sure do know what they are doing vs. the other guys that initially pro-tuned us!!
    Indeed, my protune consists of Stage 2+FMIC Aggressive boost curve with a $#@! load of timing.
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    Not to get off topic but I have never felt my back end drop under WOT in 3rd gear like it is right now. I might need a wheelie bar soon Click here to enlarge
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