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    Customer log that was emailed in today, using the G5 ISO, 70% E85, and our flatline fix flash with a few E85 specific tweaks. How is this for timing recovery at the shift? Click here to enlarge
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    This is AT flatline fix? MT doesn't lose timing after shift, right (I don't anyway)? Awesome btw, no midrange taper of timing curve?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
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    Customer log that was emailed in today, using the G5 ISO, 70% E85, and our flatline fix flash with a few E85 specific tweaks. How is this for timing recovery at the shift? Click here to enlarge
    Did this customer have a history of flatlining prior? I've been frustrated by this issue for so long; can't fault me for being a touch jaded. :-)

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
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    Did this customer have a history of flatlining prior? I've been frustrated by this issue for so long; can't fault me for being a touch jaded. :-)
    This is the some guy whos log I posted yesterday. Not sure on his prior history. He's running E85 and a Walbro pump though. I think also aftermarket turbos so we've mainly been working on E85 only fueling for him recently so he can push boost up. Before the Walbro his low pressure was dropping to 35-40 and crapping out. Now holds 60+ with much more boost.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rudypoochris Click here to enlarge
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    This is AT flatline fix? MT doesn't lose timing after shift, right (I don't anyway)? Awesome btw, no midrange taper of timing curve?
    The timing drop has been an automatic specific issue cropping up in some higher HP cars. I have not tried this map yet on manuals so not sure what if any impact it will have on them.
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    Hard to say anything for sure with just 1 cylinder logged but it sounds like you may be onto it. I'd seriously try to add that logging of all 6 cylinders asap especially as you're considering big turbo tuning. Its a much larger feature than most can appreciate

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
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    asap especially as you're considering big turbo tuning.
    And thus a rumor is born... Click here to enlarge.... Click here to enlarge........Click here to enlarge.................Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ak335i Click here to enlarge
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    And thus a rumor is born... Click here to enlarge.... Click here to enlarge........Click here to enlarge.................Click here to enlarge
    Lol he's said many times he'll be tuning them once made available..no rumor

    6 cylinder timing logs + both banks AFR logs with lean run protection

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
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    Lol he's said many times he'll be tuning them once made available..no rumor
    i know i just couldnt stand to wait any longer Click here to enlarge
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    WOW Click here to enlarge I wished mine looked like that. OK, my next mod is a flash now Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
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    Lol he's said many times he'll be tuning them once made available..no rumor

    6 cylinder timing logs + both banks AFR logs with lean run protection
    Both banks are logged and used for lean run protection, as well as both bank fuel trims, but only the leanest bank is displayed under AFR in logs or in dash unless you select "FUD=10" to force bank2 under AFR and bank1 under OilTemp.
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    That's the nicest log I've ever seen.

    Map 7?
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    That may be the most beautiful log I have ever seen. WOW!
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    The timing does look great but it seems there is some type of smoothing going on as its so flat towards the beginning...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ChuckD05 Click here to enlarge
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    That's the nicest log I've ever seen.

    Map 7?
    Yes map 7 FBO, E60. There is a lot more boost to be had up top but for now I have him racing around like this to ensure it's consistent and reliable.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Cn555ic Click here to enlarge
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    The timing does look great but it seems there is some type of smoothing going on as its so flat towards the beginning...
    He's riding the advance target we set in the flash map. Basically 10 degrees @ 2000rpm ramping up to 14 degrees @ 6750rpm. From 5500rpm up its 13 degrees most of the way.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Cn555ic Click here to enlarge
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    The timing does look great but it seems there is some type of smoothing going on as its so flat towards the beginning...
    Nope that's just how the timing looks.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
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    The timing drop has been an automatic specific issue cropping up in some higher HP cars. I have not tried this map yet on manuals so not sure what if any impact it will have on them.
    Happens even at 14 psi on stock turbos. :-(

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
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    Happens even at 14 psi on stock turbos. :-(
    I know Click here to enlarge NLS is worthless right now. Terry you should implement this with 6MT too to see if it works. Im looking into the flash as my next mod too and will let you know if it solves the issue
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    It's ready to go for MTs. Click here to enlarge
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    I am pretty positive it doesn't happen to MTs (mine), but I don't have NLS running so that may be why.

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    This has been an automatic only issue. But, the same change may offer some benefits to MTs. If anyone wants to log it just let me know. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
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    This has been an automatic only issue. But, the same change may offer some benefits to MTs. If anyone wants to log it just let me know. Click here to enlarge
    This is off topic but as good a place as any to ask, i'll be ordering the N20 TMAP sensor and adapter from you guys in the next couple weeks and i was wondering what do i need to plug into the MAP conversion tables in ATR to scale it properly?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rader1 Click here to enlarge
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    This is off topic but as good a place as any to ask, i'll be ordering the N20 TMAP sensor and adapter from you guys in the next couple weeks and i was wondering what do i need to plug into the MAP conversion tables in ATR to scale it properly?
    No idea how that would work with a flash tune. But if you have a JB4 G5 you enter "1" under "afr1500' and the JB4 handles everything for you.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
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    No idea how that would work with a flash tune. But if you have a JB4 G5 you enter "1" under "afr1500' and the JB4 handles everything for you.
    I just need to know the voltage to PSI conversion to plug into the table.Click here to enlarge

    I'm thinking 4.65v will be around 43.5 but i'm not sure about that and i have no idea about .5v
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