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    Time to Start Modding

    Well, the car has 2,500 miles on it and its time to start modding. I went with the same set up as my last 335i because I was very happy with the results. Jumped on the Helix FMIC group buy, took advantage of the AR dps from BMS, snagged a BMS DCI, and a used COBB.

    I am scheduled to have them installed the morning of 19th and am doing some before and after dynos. My plan is to do the standard stock pull and then several stage 1 aggressive pulls on my completely stock car scheduled on the 17th. Then I am scheduled back on the dyno again the afternoon of the 19th. I will do several pulls on stage 2+ aggressive, then drop in some E85 and do several pulls on the new race maps.

    Lastly, and if there is time, I will thinking about doing a comparison of results on the race maps with stock box and filter and stock box and AFE filter to compare back to the DCI set up. Is it worth it though? Most say the results on this on the dyno donít match up to the road so itís not worth the effort.

    Any tweaks or suggestions for this plan?

    Also, is there any difference between dynoing a 2011 335is vs. a 2008? I assume not, but just confirming.

    The weather will be cooler here than a lot of dynos, so should I have them run it STD and 5 smoothing. Itís a dynojet.


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    You won't have to worry about this for a few years, but you may want to snag a BMS DP Fix v3 for when you need to pass emissions.

    Also, I highly recommend doing either the Mr.5 Intake or my DIY Hybrid intake. Read more about it here: http://199.192.200.202/DIY-N54-Hybrid-Intake.pdf

    Good luck with this and I hope to see you on the tracks in the Midwest next year. I know I'll be there for sure.

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    Sounds good man! Enjoy the power, again!




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    Thanks Vasil, yea, ideally I will be in a m4 before I need to do emmisions testing.

    I originally was thinking about that, but didn't want to hassle of cutting up the oem box. Like being able to put back to stock quickly.
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    I've thought about upgrading my 2007 335i to a 2012 335is before. Only thing that makes me hesitate is the "rumor" that older models have some forged internals and 2009+ no longer do, due to cost cutting.
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    Modification to the plan: A PTF map or two. That'll show some awfully tasty differences in power.
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    Thought the same nafoo, but I dont plan on pushing more han 450-500whp. As we have seen these engines take miles and miles of boosted power (at times with questionable tuning), I am confident that the n54 with non-forged internals with proper tuning will be fine on the <500 whp loads..

    Defacto - I will get when the weather warms up. As it can get pretty warm here, I want a little harsher conditions that will be more realistic all year long.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mithiral67 Click here to enlarge
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    Thanks Vasil, yea, ideally I will be in a m4 before I need to do emmisions testing.

    I originally was thinking about that, but didn't want to hassle of cutting up the oem box. Like being able to put back to stock quickly.
    Just buy a used airbox from the forums. I can help you mod it as I have all the tools needed. Just get the filters and the tubing. We can knock it out in 2-3 hours.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mithiral67 Click here to enlarge
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    Thought the same nafoo, but I dont plan on pushing more han 450-500whp. As we have seen these engines take miles and miles of boosted power (at times with questionable tuning), I am confident that the n54 with non-forged internals with proper tuning will be fine on the <500 whp loads..

    Defacto - I will get when the weather warms up. As it can get pretty warm here, I want a little harsher conditions that will be more realistic all year long.
    Honestly, unless you really needle them to give you an absolute bleeding knife edge, hair on fire tune (like I do lol), I would feel pretty confident saying that the protune they'd do for you would be safe and function well all year round. And obviously if it's otherwise, they are happy to change it.
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    How long does the remote tune process take?

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    Pretty quick, usually a couple of revisions, though I'd suggest talking to them directly...Click here to enlarge
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    Oh, if I had someone local, would definitely go that route, a ton better than OTS maps. But no one local does Cobb, which is sad.

    The problem I have is there are no safe places around here to do proper pulls to get good date.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mithiral67 Click here to enlarge
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    How long does the remote tune process take?
    It really depends on the quality of your logs & how often you are available to take them. If you set up time with Jake or Dzenno, I'm sure you could log, email it to them & expect a revision back fairly quickly.

    Like you said, unless you're on a dyno it's finding a nice piece of road that you can get those full 3rd gear pulls without being disturbed.
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    With it being cold out and any extra power the protune would get me being waste in wheel spin until it warms, I am going to sit tight and hope someone local pops up by summer time.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mithiral67 Click here to enlarge
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    With it being cold out and any extra power the protune would get me being waste in wheel spin until it warms, I am going to sit tight and hope someone local pops up by summer time.
    Smart move! I expect to see another revision of Cobb's OTS maps and firmware being released early spring. I think we will finally live to see on-the-fly map switching with Cobb.
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    Wouldn't it be more straight forward to make the changes in the map yourself after each run, rather than email the logs and maps back and forth? If you keep the maps readable in ATR, the community can help you out.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 654 Click here to enlarge
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    Wouldn't it be more straight forward to make the changes in the map yourself after each run, rather than email the logs and maps back and forth?
    Easier said then done for most.
    Not that its overly difficult but there is alot of reading you need to do and some ppl just prefer the ease of paying someone else to do it for them.

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    I view tuning like any other customized service. Yes, I could go to WEBMD and get the answers to 90% of my problems, but its the 10% that having a doctor take a look at it that could be the difference between the extra power/damage to my engine. And after a $2,900 custom tune job done on my old 911 turbo, this will be money well spent.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 654 Click here to enlarge
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    Wouldn't it be more straight forward to make the changes in the map yourself after each run, rather than email the logs and maps back and forth? If you keep the maps readable in ATR, the community can help you out.
    ATP (the tuner module) has different tuning features then the ATR (the user module). ATP Maps are specifically locked to a car & cannot be shared or edited in ATR
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    fine, i will get an etune
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mithiral67 Click here to enlarge
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    fine, i will get an etune
    I know a handful of local cars that jake has tuned and they all run year round with his pro tunes. The only times a revision is needed is when they have issues and try to trouble shoot it with him. for example, one of my buddies who is running a ptf e85 mix protune from jake was having misfiring issues. He did new plugs, new coils, and it still happened. got the injector of the misfiring cylinder replaced, and car was running funky afterward, but not misfiring. Sent a log via email, jake tweaked it a little, my buddy got the map back and uploaded it to the car, and bam, no more problems and back to pulling like a raped ape. def do it since you have chosen cobb ap as your tune this time around also!

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    If you haven't already you might consider a differential, help put down more of the power to the ground.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Stucks Click here to enlarge
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    I know a handful of local cars that jake has tuned and they all run year round with his pro tunes. The only times a revision is needed is when they have issues and try to trouble shoot it with him. for example, one of my buddies who is running a ptf e85 mix protune from jake was having misfiring issues. He did new plugs, new coils, and it still happened. got the injector of the misfiring cylinder replaced, and car was running funky afterward, but not misfiring. Sent a log via email, jake tweaked it a little, my buddy got the map back and uploaded it to the car, and bam, no more problems and back to pulling like a raped ape. def do it since you have chosen cobb ap as your tune this time around also!
    This is why I decided to do it. Get it done now, and tweak as needed.
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    If you haven't already you might consider a differential, help put down more of the power to the ground.
    Yea, going to mod as needed. My 335i had a lot of wheel spin. On 265 Conti DWS stage 2+, I would spin most of 2nd in the summer. My IS has 275 Conti DWS and has a ton more grip. Even when its 30-40 degrees on stage 1, I get zero slip in 2nd and even on turns I cant even get the back end out more than 1-2 feet before I am completely hooked up. Not sure if its the stance/wheels or the IS just better at putting the power down. I do know though with the stock RFTs, I got massive wheel hope on stock power which was fixed with the new tires.
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    Change of plan, going to push the second dyno back two weeks and get a 93 oct etune and a e30 etune from PTF. So dynos will be

    Stock car - stock tune - 12/17/12
    Stock car - stage 1 OTS - 12/17/12
    FBO car - Stage 2+ OTS 93 oct - 1/4/13
    FBO car - Stage 2+ Etune 93 oct - 1/4/13
    FBO car - Stage 2+ OTS E30 race - 1/4/13
    FBO car - Stage 2+ Etune E30 race - 1/4/13
    2015 - Cayman GTS - Stock
    2011 - 335is e92 - Cobb PTF E40/Rob Beck/AR/Helix (458 rwtq and 479 rwhp) - Retired
    2007 - 911 Turbo - EP1/AMS (617 awtq and 500 awhp) - Retired
    2008 - 335i e92 - Cobb/AR/Helix/OSS (384 rwtq and 356 rwhp) - Retired
    2003 and 2005 330i/ci zhp - Stock - Retired

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