Close

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 29
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    118,915
    Rep Points
    31,844.0
    Mentioned
    2091 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    319


    Yes Reputation No

    First dynojet numbers for the Mercedes 5.5 liter twin turbo M157 - Insideline dyno tests the 2011 S63 AMG

    We know you have been waiting for dyno numbers for the M157 with baited breath just like we have. Now, the sleepless nights can finally come to an end. Insideline dyno tested the S63 AMG featuring the new twin turbo V8 powerplant with the optional Performance Package and all we have to say is: TORQUE, A LOT OF TORQUE. Wow, over 600 pound-feet at the wheels. They also overlaid the graph with the M159 naturally aspirated v8 out of the Mercedes SLS AMG and once you see the curves compared we don't think you or anyone else is going to miss the M156/M159 motor very much

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    1,894
    Rep Points
    1,422.5
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    15


    Yes Reputation No
    If they ever put this in a smaller car, it will be epic. Maybe the next generation C63.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    118,915
    Rep Points
    31,844.0
    Mentioned
    2091 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    319



    Yes Reputation No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    If they ever put this in a smaller car, it will be epic. Maybe the next generation C63.
    This is exactly what I was thinking.

    I wonder if Mercedes has the Huevos to stick it in the SLK.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Romania
    Posts
    79
    Rep Points
    98.1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    0


    Yes Reputation No
    They will 100% stick it, but not sure it they'll add also the turbochargers. Anyway , that engine bay is just beautifull.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    118,915
    Rep Points
    31,844.0
    Mentioned
    2091 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    319



    Yes Reputation No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bogdan_mb Click here to enlarge
    They will 100% stick it, but not sure it they'll add also the turbochargers. Anyway , that engine bay is just beautifull.
    Those rumors about the naturally aspirated 5.5 liter V8 sure just seem to be rumors. It was supposed to go in the C63 AMG coupe as well but didn't. I don't see them making a motor just for 1 car.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    OH
    Posts
    1,454
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    0


    Yes Reputation No
    Turbos love load as you can see by the 1:1 5th gear pull netting more tq than the 4th gear pull. Keep in mind the PP package tuning is 80-85% of what you'll see from a solid aftermarket tune.

    Thanks

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    118,915
    Rep Points
    31,844.0
    Mentioned
    2091 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    319



    Yes Reputation No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MHP LLC Click here to enlarge
    Turbos love load as you can see by the 1:1 5th gear pull netting more tq than the 4th gear pull. Keep in mind the PP package tuning is 80-85% of what you'll see from a solid aftermarket tune.

    Thanks
    I see no reason to order the PP, just get some aftermarket tuning and get more for less.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    OH
    Posts
    1,454
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    0


    Yes Reputation No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I see no reason to order the PP, just get some aftermarket tuning and get more for less.
    Yes sir, about 1/3 the cost for more power and tq.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    118,915
    Rep Points
    31,844.0
    Mentioned
    2091 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    319



    Yes Reputation No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MHP LLC Click here to enlarge
    Yes sir, about 1/3 the cost for more power and tq.
    When can we expect an MHP tune for these motors?

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,923
    Rep Points
    1,825.9
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    19


    Yes Reputation No
    What a monster! I love the fact that they still are using dip sticks, unlike BMW lol.........Also, when are we gonna see something like this from BMW? The new M5 engine maybe? The power this thing makes is crazy.......

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    118,915
    Rep Points
    31,844.0
    Mentioned
    2091 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    319



    Yes Reputation No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
    What a monster! I love the fact that they still are using dip sticks, unlike BMW lol.........Also, when are we gonna see something like this from BMW? The new M5 engine maybe? The power this thing makes is crazy.......
    It has me thinking of doing a comparison article but I'm thinking Mercedes has BMW beat on raw power and torque.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,923
    Rep Points
    1,825.9
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    19


    Yes Reputation No
    Pretty sure they do, just look at their whole line up of AMG beasts. Every other year they bring a more powerful engine, while BMW stays with the same $#@! for like 7 years. Looks like MB is not $#@!ing around...

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    118,915
    Rep Points
    31,844.0
    Mentioned
    2091 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    319



    Yes Reputation No
    MB definitely will have more power and torque. Best case scenario is the new M5 putting out 470 whp, so the Performance Package has it beat significantly hands down.

    The upside is the DCT shifts so much faster.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    OH
    Posts
    1,454
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    0


    Yes Reputation No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    When can we expect an MHP tune for these motors?
    I've been able to do them since I sent you the pic of the ECU (when was that)? I haven't personally done one yet but we had one on the Cartec in Feb. Not an easy read/write but it's been done already.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    118,915
    Rep Points
    31,844.0
    Mentioned
    2091 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    319



    Yes Reputation No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MHP LLC Click here to enlarge
    I've been able to do them since I sent you the pic of the ECU (when was that)? I haven't personally done one yet but we had one on the Cartec in Feb. Not an easy read/write but it's been done already.
    Excellent, well I look forward to the official pricing, boost, dyno, and gain information!

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Encino,CA
    Posts
    8,012
    Rep Points
    5,704.0
    Mentioned
    175 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    58


    Yes Reputation No
    lmfao, I need to step up. This game is not being fair at all 600 wtq stock!
    Burger Motorsports
    Home of the Worlds fastest N20s, N54s, N55s, S55s, N63s, and S63s!

    It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    118,915
    Rep Points
    31,844.0
    Mentioned
    2091 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    319



    Yes Reputation No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    lmfao, I need to step up. This game is not being fair at all 600 wtq stock!
    Yep, it's getting out of control now haha. I can't wait until they start tuning these.

    Mercedes, please put the motor in the SLK just as a giant middle finger to everyone.

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Encino,CA
    Posts
    8,012
    Rep Points
    5,704.0
    Mentioned
    175 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    58


    Yes Reputation No
    to everyone, seriously. just a tune and you're next to if not pulling zr1.
    Burger Motorsports
    Home of the Worlds fastest N20s, N54s, N55s, S55s, N63s, and S63s!

    It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Romania
    Posts
    79
    Rep Points
    98.1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    0


    Yes Reputation No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Yep, it's getting out of control now haha. I can't wait until they start tuning these.

    Mercedes, please put the motor in the SLK just as a giant middle finger to everyone.
    By doing this the SLK will be the fastest AMG ever launched, maybe even faster than SLR, since we all know what SLK55 with supercharger can do an that is not even close to M157. Hope they'll add this engine, at least a Black Series with turbos.
    - 09 - SLK 350 - AMG PKG -

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    118,915
    Rep Points
    31,844.0
    Mentioned
    2091 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    319



    Yes Reputation No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bogdan_mb Click here to enlarge
    By doing this the SLK will be the fastest AMG ever launched, maybe even faster than SLR, since we all know what SLK55 with supercharger can do an that is not even close to M157. Hope they'll add this engine, at least a Black Series with turbos.
    Yep, the SLK would be out of control. I'm with you completely on this.

  21. #21
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Romania
    Posts
    79
    Rep Points
    98.1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    0


    Yes Reputation No
    Has anyone notice that M157 found in newly launched CLS and E-class offer less power and torque compared to the S-class ?
    To be more specific :

    E & CLS : 525 hp / 700 Nm and 557 hp / 800 Nm with P30
    while
    S class : 544 hp / 800 Nm and 571 hp / 900 Nm with P30

    Does anyone know if there is some tehnical changes between them (100 Nm is a considarable difference, even at this level ) or only software tweaks for marketing ?

  22. #22
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    151
    Rep Points
    70.0
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    0


    Yes Reputation No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bogdan_mb Click here to enlarge
    Has anyone notice that M157 found in newly launched CLS and E-class offer less power and torque compared to the S-class ?
    To be more specific :

    E & CLS : 525 hp / 700 Nm and 557 hp / 800 Nm with P30
    while
    S class : 544 hp / 800 Nm and 571 hp / 900 Nm with P30

    Does anyone know if there is some tehnical changes between them (100 Nm is a considarable difference, even at this level ) or only software tweaks for marketing ?

    Software for marketing.

  23. #23
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    118,915
    Rep Points
    31,844.0
    Mentioned
    2091 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    319



    Yes Reputation No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bogdan_mb Click here to enlarge
    Has anyone notice that M157 found in newly launched CLS and E-class offer less power and torque compared to the S-class ?
    To be more specific :

    E & CLS : 525 hp / 700 Nm and 557 hp / 800 Nm with P30
    while
    S class : 544 hp / 800 Nm and 571 hp / 900 Nm with P30

    Does anyone know if there is some tehnical changes between them (100 Nm is a considarable difference, even at this level ) or only software tweaks for marketing ?
    Just software and there might not even be a real world difference. The S-class is the flagship, so they market it with flagship numbers.

  24. #24
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    158
    Rep Points
    176.4
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    2


    Yes Reputation No
    The M157 is definitely a stout looking power plant. No doubt the tuners will have a ton of fun with it. What about the transmission limits? Who is working on the transmission?

    I was intending a long affair with my C63 and I think with money in mind I will find a lot to be happy about my C63 for a long time to come. At least I hope so...LOL.

    I will have to live the M157 vicariously through the exploits of members here. Looking forward to it!

  25. #25
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    118,915
    Rep Points
    31,844.0
    Mentioned
    2091 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    319



    Yes Reputation No
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mort Click here to enlarge
    The M157 is definitely a stout looking power plant. No doubt the tuners will have a ton of fun with it. What about the transmission limits? Who is working on the transmission?

    I was intending a long affair with my C63 and I think with money in mind I will find a lot to be happy about my C63 for a long time to come. At least I hope so...LOL.

    I will have to live the M157 vicariously through the exploits of members here. Looking forward to it!
    Considering the motor is hitting over 600 pound-feet at the wheels stock, I certainly hope they have a seriously stout transmission in there.

    I'm loving what I am seeing from the M157 thus far.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •