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      The new second generation NSX is a radical departure from the original. Honda simply got it wrong. What made the NSX a success is that it was a reliable exotic which was fun to drive. It was light, revved high, sounded great, rear wheel drive, and an excellent driver's car. In comparison, the new NSX feels like an appliance.


      Quite simply, it lacks soul. They packed in technology but they did not make the car more fun to drive. It is a lot more expensive. It is a lot heavier. It does not have a manual option. Electric assisted all wheel drive gives it a completely different feel. Are you driving it or are computers?

      Bridgewater Acura is knocking $44,800 off the sticker of this NSX:


      Checking their website it looks like it is already gone. At $200k optioned the NSX really isn't worth the money considering how it performs roughly the same as the now very long in the tooth Nissan GT-R. Knock $45k off though and people come knocking.

      It's safe to say at this point that Honda/Acura failed with the car and they had plenty of time with delay after delay to get it right.

      Oh, and here is a 'used' one with 2 miles on it they will let go for $129k from the $168k MSRP: http://www.bridgewateracura.com/inve...nc1b05hy000834


      The car is a flop.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: The new Acura NSX is a failure - Dealers already discounting the car $45k off sticker started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Proflyer's Avatar
        Proflyer -
        With that sort of discount leasing one might actually make sense. A guy in my office got lucky, basically, and got his hands on a 2016 GT-R that Nissan/dealer had discounted to like 85k. He was already looking and the salesman called him. The residual was like 55% of the MSRP (I think the residual was like 68k) but with the discount he was only making lease payments on the difference (85k-68k so like 17k). He did a 36 month lease! Payments are insane like $520/month. Plus he can obviously keep it for the 68k if he wants to in 2 years.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Proflyer Click here to enlarge
        Payments are insane like $520/month.
        Seriously? Wow.
      1. I6+TT=FTW's Avatar
        I6+TT=FTW -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Proflyer Click here to enlarge
        With that sort of discount leasing one might actually make sense. A guy in my office got lucky, basically, and got his hands on a 2016 GT-R that Nissan/dealer had discounted to like 85k. He was already looking and the salesman called him. The residual was like 55% of the MSRP (I think the residual was like 68k) but with the discount he was only making lease payments on the difference (85k-68k so like 17k). He did a 36 month lease! Payments are insane like $520/month. Plus he can obviously keep it for the 68k if he wants to in 2 years.
        AWESOME! Not sure if I believe it but AWESOME!
      1. Proflyer's Avatar
        Proflyer -
        Yep, wish they had 2!

        Also, I think I have my years off. This was about a year or so ago so maybe it was a 2015 left over. Either way it was a deal. Apparently Nissan discounted a bunch of left over Gt-Rs by a ton to get them moved and the guys who were ready to jump got a killer deal. It's a 'black edition' in the pearl white. Cool car for sure.
      1. richpike's Avatar
        richpike -
        Such a bummer - I was (still am) a huge fan of the Gen1, likely because of the age I was when it was released. Had high hopes for the 2nd gen, especially after all the delays. Our dealer sold their initial allocation (only 2) immediately - not sure if they received more.

        In general, Acura seems to have really lost their way (and this comes from a current owner of a 2016 MDX). They are still (relatively) fun to drive and high value, but their styling is controversial at best and they haven’t put out a sedan in 7 years that had any soul. Hope they find their way soon.

        -Rich
      1. Bowser330's Avatar
        Bowser330 -
        MSRP is too high. They should have shot for GTR range not R8 range....

        This car needs some tuning....ecu, turbos, downpipes/exhaust....it might become relevant with tuning.

        The NSX makes me nervous what the next GTR will be...I have high hopes it can be tuned to be a hypercar competitor. (R36 GTR)
      1. ///MPOSTER's Avatar
        ///MPOSTER -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by richpike Click here to enlarge
        Such a bummer - I was (still am) a huge fan of the Gen1, likely because of the age I was when it was released. Had high hopes for the 2nd gen, especially after all the delays. Our dealer sold their initial allocation (only 2) immediately - not sure if they received more.

        In general, Acura seems to have really lost their way (and this comes from a current owner of a 2016 MDX). They are still (relatively) fun to drive and high value, but their styling is controversial at best and they haven’t put out a sedan in 7 years that had any soul. Hope they find their way soon.

        -Rich
        I'm in the market right now and have been looking at the 2017 Honda Accord touring, 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec, and an SUV like the RDX or MDX. Today I read an article that the A-spec wasn't really a sport sedan. It had the looks but no real sport feel behind the wheel. I find that kind of hard to believe since I was much more impressed with the fully loaded accord V6 (278hp) and would assume that the TLX being the same body and engine but with 290HP would feel stronger. The article did mention the paddle shifters were delayed and "disconnected". I really need to get to the Acura dealer and test drive each one.

        The X3 will be traded in most likely for a sedan . I don't think I can get rid of my 335i even though it just failed me (sarcasm) at 55,000 miles. Due to my stupidity of not rerouting the AC line , the manifold touched the wrapped line one too many times. Smoke was billowing out from under the hood after a loud pop. I scared some old lady who was done shopping as I told her to not breathe in any of the smoke. She threw her groceries in as fast as she could toss them into the back seat and was gone. Meanwhile I'm fanning the oil/refrigerant covered manfold with my detached front license plate I had in my trunk.

        After all of that I drove it home and took my X3 back to the grocery store like nothing ever happened . I hate how BMWs leave me stranded or make me feel like when people see me struggling with it , that I deserve it. My X3 left me stranded on my way to an out of town wedding when the water pump decided to fail. That was expensive . I need stability in my life.

        Long story short ... I will consider an NSX with a $45,000 discount hahahahahaha!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ///MPOSTER Click here to enlarge
        2017 Honda Accord touring, 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec, and an SUV like the RDX or MDX.
        All boring as $#@! as to drive.
      1. ///MPOSTER's Avatar
        ///MPOSTER -
        @richpike , forgot to mention that the 4cyl turbo 2018 accord could be a nice soul catcher. I dislike the rear but the interior seemed to be nicer. Just need some tuning capable people to test some ....achem.....ahem.....JB4 .....products .
      1. ///MPOSTER's Avatar
        ///MPOSTER -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        All boring as $#@! as to drive.

        Thats why I have my toy car (335i). I'd honestly trade both/sell both for one nice car. An M5 would be nice but two mortgage payments , an apartment , 3 cars , flights home, is kind of draining me at the moment. Once I sell one home , I think I'd give the wife the new car I just bought, and shop for an M5. I didn't buy a 3 car garage for nothing, but it doesn't mean I can't put a nice lift on the 3rd bay if I cut down to two cars.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ///MPOSTER Click here to enlarge
        two mortgage payments , an apartment , 3 cars
        That sounds like quite the financial drain.
      1. Bowser330's Avatar
        Bowser330 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ///MPOSTER Click here to enlarge
        Thats why I have my toy car (335i). I'd honestly trade both/sell both for one nice car. An M5 would be nice but two mortgage payments , an apartment , 3 cars , flights home, is kind of draining me at the moment. Once I sell one home , I think I'd give the wife the new car I just bought, and shop for an M5. I didn't buy a 3 car garage for nothing, but it doesn't mean I can't put a nice lift on the 3rd bay if I cut down to two cars.
        Mortgage#1 = main house
        Mortgage#2 = vacation home?
        Apartment = Kid in college?
        Car#1 = 335i
        Car#2 = X3
        Car#3 = Kid in college?
        flights home = Kid in college?

        Financial drain indeed, but looks like a kid in college is the main drain besides vacation home...
      1. quattr0's Avatar
        quattr0 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by richpike Click here to enlarge
        In general, Acura seems to have really lost their way (and this comes from a current owner of a 2016 MDX).

        -Rich
        Small world...wifey drives '13 MDX for almost 4 years now and so far new battery and tires. Think I will get her another MDX when this one will give up or maybe an used TT-RS and we could trade keys now and then Click here to enlarge
      1. richpike's Avatar
        richpike -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by quattr0 Click here to enlarge
        Small world...wifey drives '13 MDX for almost 4 years now and so far new battery and tires. Think I will get her another MDX when this one will give up or maybe an used TT-RS and we could trade keys now and then Click here to enlarge
        That’s awesome - We still need a third row, but I’ve vaguely thought about getting a 991.1 as an extra car. Not as nice as a 991.2, but I’ve always wanted a Porsche and the 991.1 is more in my price range Click here to enlarge

        -Rich
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        991.1's have no balls and neither do their owners.
      1. F16HTON's Avatar
        F16HTON -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
        991.1's have no balls and neither do their owners.
        QFT, all I hear from them is...

        But mine sounds like a real Porsche, and I can add the X-51 power kit and still be slower than you.
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by F16HTON Click here to enlarge
        QFT, all I hear from them is...

        But mine sounds like a real Porsche, and I can add the X-51 power kit and still be slower than you.
        I love making those guys looks like idiots on Rennlist.

        The 991.1 is crap compared to the 991.2. Especially the Carrera with its pathetic 3.4. Some of those guys claim it is more rewarding. Yeah, timing 0-100 with a calendar is sooooo rewarding.
      1. richpike's Avatar
        richpike -
        Ha! I’ve been told I have no balls before, but not for wanting a Porsche Click here to enlarge

        I’m probably not the typical Porsche owner - I’m not going to act like my car is the fastest thing on earth, especially with a NA motor at 6,500ft. And would love a 991.2 with the new turbo mills, but life. My wife is pushing me towards an S6 (not because it is fast - she prefers sedans). We’ll see what happens.

        -Rich
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by richpike Click here to enlarge
        Ha! I’ve been told I have no balls before, but not for wanting a Porsche Click here to enlarge

        I’m probably not the typical Porsche owner - I’m not going to act like my car is the fastest thing on earth, especially with a NA motor at 6,500ft. And would love a 991.2 with the new turbo mills, but life. My wife is pushing me towards an S6 (not because it is fast - she prefers sedans). We’ll see what happens.

        -Rich
        Not trying to rain on your parade. Just sick of old men with 991.1's who know jack $#@! about cars and actually think their 991.1's are fast.

        Not to mention listening to the idiot arguments about exhaust sounds as if the 991.2 sounds bad.
      1. richpike's Avatar
        richpike -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Not trying to rain on your parade. Just sick of old men with 991.1's who know jack $#@! about cars and actually think their 991.1's are fast.

        Not to mention listening to the idiot arguments about exhaust sounds as if the 991.2 sounds bad.
        No worries - I’d love a 991.2, but not in my price range right now.

        -Rich