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    • Lexus RC F (the F stands for Fail) vs. BMW F82 M4 roll race

      This is just a quick street pull between two people who don't know what they're talking about. If you can ignore the banter what it shows is that the M4 is the much faster car. We already knew this way back in 2014 but real world results are nice to have.


      First, what you need to understand is they do not have 'about the same power' despite the RC F being rated higher on paper. The M4 S55 motor makes much more power than the RC F rated at 467 horsepower. It also has more torque. It also revs higher. It also has a DCT transmission. It's also over 400 pounds lighter.

      This is one sided because the RC F is a pile of hot garbage. It's a 4000 pound automatic naturally aspirated V8 that would be outclassed in last generation's sport sedan battle. It's doing its best W204 C63 AMG impression and failing at it. Calling the RC F as monster as is done in this video is an insult to monsters everywhere.

      The RC F gets a large jump and even though the M4 owner gets on the gas a day later he pulls past easily. We get one crappy run but it shows in the real world that even if the RC F gets a jump the M4 easily reels it in and passes. Contrary to what is stated in the video the RC F doesn't get a lead at speed due to turbo lag but because the driver has poor timing. Nobody at freeway speeds in the right gear in an M4 should be running into turbo lag.

      Why aren't you back at the drawing board already Lexus?


      This article was originally published in forum thread: Lexus RC F (the F stands for Fail) vs. BMW F82 M4 roll race started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 12 Comments
      1. Bowser330's Avatar
        Bowser330 -
        I call the RC-F and its little brother RC350 the fastest looking slow cars on the market.

        I agree it was purely timing, the excuse of turbo lag is not very relevant on an S55 at any rolling speed.

        Why don't we have phone apps that can sync up cars through bluetooth in a roll race and show a big red then green light to whoever wants to go? No more honks, or shouting out the damn window, or walkie talkies, use the smartphones everyone already has...it could even be an audible countdown but at least its not one person counting off...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Bowser330 Click here to enlarge
        Why don't we have phone apps that can sync up cars through bluetooth in a roll race and show a big red then green light to whoever wants to go?
        Liability issues. It can be done obviously.
      1. onisyndicate's Avatar
        onisyndicate -
        The rcf reminds me of a fifth gen prelude. Wow does it look fast but that awd mini van just beat you from stop light.



        But that app idea sounds awesome!
      1. reimundo's Avatar
        reimundo -
        I have 2 friends one has a ISF and the other an m4 . Every time they race they are neck and neck untill 110mph , m4 pulls on the ISF slowly. Both cars are stock so what is funny is it does not matter if the race from a stop or a roll the out come is the same. My friend with the ISF wants to race a RCF to see the difference.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by reimundo Click here to enlarge
        I have 2 friends one has a ISF and the other an m4 . Every time they race they are neck and neck untill 110mph , m4 pulls on the ISF slowly.
        On what planet does this happen? I smoked a stock ISF in my bolt on E92 M3 DCT on the highway. The M4 will run away from it, no contest.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by reimundo Click here to enlarge
        Both cars are stock so what is funny is it does not matter if the race from a stop or a roll the out come is the same.
        What's funny is the story as that's all it is, a story.
      1. reimundo's Avatar
        reimundo -
        Next time they race I will tell him to record it!
      1. reimundo's Avatar
        reimundo -
        I smoked many e92 m3 with my supra so what!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by reimundo Click here to enlarge
        I smoked many e92 m3 with my supra so what!
        What does that have to do with the IS-F not being anywhere near as fast or powerful as the BMW M4?

        Hell, the M4 is lighter and has a DCT as well. It's not a race, it's a slaughter.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by reimundo Click here to enlarge
        Next time they race I will tell him to record it!
        Good.
      1. reimundo's Avatar
        reimundo -
        I seen it with my own eyes ! Before they raced I thought the samething that the m4 would beat it really bad too but did not .
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by reimundo Click here to enlarge
        I seen it with my own eyes ! Before they raced I thought the samething that the m4 would beat it really bad too but did not .
        You need an optometrist then.

        It's a physical impossibility for the M4 and ISF to be even as you state. The ISF isn't faster than the E92 M3 let alone the F82 M4.
      1. reimundo's Avatar
        reimundo -
        Haha I don't think so