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    APR Stage II tune for pulley upgraded S-Tronic B8 S4 3.0 TFSI supercharged V6 versus competitors tune dynograph - Over 400 whp

    Interesting dynograph posted by APR here showing their Stage II software on a 3.0 TFSI B8 S4 versus a competitors Stage I software. The competitor is not named but APR was asked to retune the car and got just under 20 more horsepower at all four wheels out of it to bring it to just over 400 at the wheels on a dynojet in DIN correction. The graph gets choppy at the end where the S-Tronic transmission decided to upshift.

    So what accounts for the gain? APR states the unnamed competitor is not able to tune for the upgraded pulley whereas with their Stage II software they are. It's a bit unfair to not name the competitor so that they may have a chance at a rebuttal so this is a bit one-sided. Regardless, great gains by APR and awesome power out of the S4 on pump gas with their software.

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    Its either GIAC or STaSIS/REVO... I'm leaning more towards GIAC though, but from what I hear, they are working with AWE-Tuning to come out with a Pulley as well, so I'm sure we will see something of a rebuttal from the other side...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FLYING X5 Click here to enlarge
    Its either GIAC or STaSIS/REVO... I'm leaning more towards GIAC though, but from what I hear, they are working with AWE-Tuning to come out with a Pulley as well, so I'm sure we will see something of a rebuttal from the other side...
    I think it's a Euro tuner... so not GIAC.

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    My car is currently equipped with the full stasis touring package...overall I'm happy but I have already decided to go APR stage 2+ in March...I really miss the low-end tq from the m156 and while I was hoping to wait for the GIAC/AWE pulley package, APR's reputation and proven track record have swayed me. I am hoping to hit the dyno next week for some baseline numbers so I can compare my stasis tune vs the APR tune + pulley next month.

    I'm really excited to see this car putting out numbers close to my C63....off the line acceleration is very impressive as is (launch control is wicked) - I can only imagine what the increase in boost is going feel like with the new pulley. Looking forward to cutting some sub-12 1/4 mile passes this Spring.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BK63AMG Click here to enlarge
    the full stasis touring package...overall I'm happy
    So just suspension mods for now? A pulley and a tune is a must on this motor.

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    No - I've got the stasis touring suspension, stasis tune, AWE intake and stasis touring exhaust w/ DPs...really nice package overall but I want more power and APR looks like the way to go.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BK63AMG Click here to enlarge
    No - I've got the stasis touring suspension, stasis tune, AWE intake and stasis touring exhaust w/ DPs...really nice package overall but I want more power and APR looks like the way to go.
    If you want more power the APR tune + pulley is where it's at.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BK63AMG Click here to enlarge
    No - I've got the stasis touring suspension, stasis tune, AWE intake and stasis touring exhaust w/ DPs...really nice package overall but I want more power and APR looks like the way to go.
    Do you have a manual or an auto?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Adrenacide Click here to enlarge
    Do you have a manual or an auto?
    I've got the DSG.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BK63AMG Click here to enlarge
    I've got the DSG.
    Any idea how much stress launch control has on the car?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Adrenacide Click here to enlarge
    Any idea how much stress launch control has on the car?
    Four wheel drive an DSG... a bunch.

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    I'm just interested to find out how often it's ok to use launch control. Don't want to break stuff!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Adrenacide Click here to enlarge
    I'm just interested to find out how often it's ok to use launch control. Don't want to break stuff!
    You'll just wear the discs down. It's a consumable item, just depends how much you do it. There is no real set number but I'd guess 50 launches.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FLYING X5 Click here to enlarge
    Its either GIAC or STaSIS/REVO... I'm leaning more towards GIAC though, but from what I hear, they are working with AWE-Tuning to come out with a Pulley as well, so I'm sure we will see something of a rebuttal from the other side...
    the map on the car was Revo i had it taken off and APR put on it is on a s5 cabriolet

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by s5 cab tony Click here to enlarge
    the map on the car was Revo i had it taken off and APR put on it is on a s5 cabriolet
    Awesome!!! Glad to finally get the tuner. Also glad you are happy with your new tune.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Awesome!!! Glad to finally get the tuner. Also glad you are happy with your new tune.
    yes its a completly different car now nothing wrong with the revo software i just wanted the pulley upgrade and the revo software would not support it

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by s5 cab tony Click here to enlarge
    yes its a completly different car now nothing wrong with the revo software i just wanted the pulley upgrade and the revo software would not support it
    Completely understandable I would have done the same.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Completely understandable I would have done the same.
    i have the Milltek cat back exhaust fitted and want the sports cats fitted as Milltek don't do them yet I've been looking at super sprint I've been told they will pair up have you heard any feedback on them ?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by s5 cab tony Click here to enlarge
    i have the Milltek cat back exhaust fitted and want the sports cats fitted as Milltek don't do them yet I've been looking at super sprint I've been told they will pair up have you heard any feedback on them ?
    Ya, Supersprint has them if you are interested. Where are you located?

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    I'm in accrington Lancashire do you know anyone else who has had them fitted and if so where they happy as they are not cheap and would hate to get them and there is no difference

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by s5 cab tony Click here to enlarge
    I'm in accrington Lancashire do you know anyone else who has had them fitted and if so where they happy as they are not cheap and would hate to get them and there is no difference
    Let me get the information and get back to you ASAP. Just bump this thread if necessary, waiting on SuperSprint but timezone difference makes that a problem.

    I'll get you the info Click here to enlarge

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    Ok thank you

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by s5 cab tony Click here to enlarge
    I'm in accrington Lancashire do you know anyone else who has had them fitted and if so where they happy as they are not cheap and would hate to get them and there is no difference
    Here you go:

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    From SuperSprint:

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SuperSprint
    - 767731 (pipes that removes the OEM cats) and 767702+767732 front pipe with metallic cats
    List price is € 3.202
    This setup has not showed dramatically improved performance on an S4 fitted with a MTM remap.
    A bit more torque in the mid range but not higher max power.

    Or even better:
    -769101 + 769111 "Street" headers + 767702+767732 front pipe with metallic cats
    List price is € 5.230
    This setup give a OEMcar a 9 hp increase, 13 hp on a car with a Revo Stage 1 Map.

    I think that on a car with a reduced pulley and correct software the increase would be much higher with the headers, probably around 20 hp.

    By the way, the car gets quite louder and high pitched when you replace the stock cats, so I can't assure a sufficient level of comfort if fitted with a different brand's catback!

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    Superb many thanks

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by s5 cab tony Click here to enlarge
    Superb many thanks
    You are very welcome, let us know how it goes.

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