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    APR built and balanced 2.0 TSI bottom end build - Pictures of the block, crank, pistons, and rods

    APR does absolutely great work on the VW platforms and this is no different. Eventually in builds taken to a high level the rods and pistons become a weak point in the 2.0 motors. APR suggests upgrading the rods when going beyond the Stage 3 pump gas level. The pistons here use the same compression ratio as the stock Golf R which APR feels is best and are coated in heat resistant material. APR also does a balance shaft delete which frees up some rotational mass.

    Material is removed from the stock crankshaft to lighten and balance it. For those looking to take their 2.0 TSI motor to the next level APR has built and balanced internals covered. Photos below.

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    Damn, I do not know how I didnt see this. Amazing to see shots for the public on the TSI motor. This is a first. Big things are coming their way. APR stage 4 on TSI should yield some massive power.
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    How well does the AWD tranny handle this power? What's the most that's been pushed on this motor so far? Is it all through a FWD or is there AWD setups?
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    Geeeeeesh! Those APR freaks sure do get to have lotso fun!

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    APR does good $#@!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    Damn, I do not know how I didnt see this. Amazing to see shots for the public on the TSI motor. This is a first. Big things are coming their way. APR stage 4 on TSI should yield some massive power.
    How much power?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    How much power?
    well the stage 3+ is 400 whp or so. I'm guessing the stage 4 will be in upwards of 450whp+ easy. AFAIK stage 4 set ups are totally custom tunes but that's with the FSI. There hasn't been any stage 4 TSI that I know of in the public. I know they're obviously testing the $#@! out of it.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    well the stage 3+ is 400 whp or so. I'm guessing the stage 4 will be in upwards of 450whp+ easy. AFAIK stage 4 set ups are totally custom tunes but that's with the FSI. There hasn't been any stage 4 TSI that I know of in the public. I know they're obviously testing the $#@! out of it.
    I would want a completely custom tune over anything canned

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    I love the TSI and cant wait to see high hp coming from it.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I would want a completely custom tune over anything canned
    APR has one of the best canned tunes though, without a doubt. I know for a fact though that it will most likely be a custom tune for a stage 4 setup. However you want your car to be they will do it.
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    is this tsi motor for sure, and not fsi?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by pattrick02 Click here to enlarge
    is this tsi motor for sure, and not fsi?
    Yes, it is TSI. The pistons and rods are from the TSI motor that are pictured up top.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    Yes, it is TSI. The pistons and rods are from the TSI motor that are pictured up top.
    good stuff. i'm surprised i haven't seen this on other forums, or on their facebook yet.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by pattrick02 Click here to enlarge
    good stuff. i'm surprised i haven't seen this on other forums, or on their facebook yet.
    To be honest, I wanted to show you a picture to verify and I guess I'm not even sure what it's from exactly.

    Here is the comparison of OEM FSI VS Mahle FSI pistons VS OEM TSI VS Mahle TSI piston. It' doesn't look like any of the OEM ones. Only resembles the Mahle FSI piston.

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    that's why i was a bit confused..where did these pics come from? is that not from the Max Golf R build?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by pattrick02 Click here to enlarge
    that's why i was a bit confused..where did these pics come from? is that not from the Max Golf R build?
    I got them from golfmk6.com under the 2.0 engine mods. thread is the Myth busted injectors found something like that. I'll try n link it here.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    I got them from golfmk6.com under the 2.0 engine mods. thread is the Myth busted injectors found something like that. I'll try n link it here.
    i think i saw the same thing on vortex: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...mystery-solved.

    but i don't see the picture of the pistons..probably someone else who posted it..

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    yes, that thread but on golf mk6 pretty much.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by pattrick02 Click here to enlarge
    that's why i was a bit confused..where did these pics come from? is that not from the Max Golf R build?
    What I posted is coming from the Max Golf R build.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    What I posted is coming from the Max Golf R build.
    Perfect, now I know what motor this is lol. FSI not TSI Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    Perfect, now I know what motor this is lol. FSI not TSI Click here to enlarge
    Actually, sorry, I don't think this is from the Max R build but a separate build.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    What I posted is coming from the Max Golf R build.
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Actually, sorry, I don't think this is from the Max R build but a separate build.

    okay, that makes a lot more sense, lol. I thought it was FSI. They haven't done anything like this for the TSI yet.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by pattrick02 Click here to enlarge
    okay, that makes a lot more sense, lol. I thought it was FSI. They haven't done anything like this for the TSI yet.
    Sorry about the confusion there. I don't know why the VW motors are giving me such a hard time. I need to not only organize them better but better recognize them as well.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Sorry about the confusion there. I don't know why the VW motors are giving me such a hard time. I need to not only organize them better but better recognize them as well.
    i'm still confused with them too, dont worry.
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